fatbillybob

sbelles

Did he have an explanation for that? Looking at his lap timer instead of the track?

LuigiVampa

This looks like that last thread where the Porsche ran into the back of the NASCAR.

Looks like once he put two wheels off he couldn't brake in time.

What was the lead car doing? Looks like they almost came to a stop. Not that that would be an excuse but what the hell was he doing?

Mike Murphy

mglobe

Was there any kind of local yellow? I didn't see one on either the front or rear view cameras.

sbelles

There's a car that had already hit the wall in front of him.

dgrobs

No Flaggers to warn anyone after the initial hit in front of the OP's car? There was already a car in the wall and then there was contact from the behind to the OP's car, correct?
If that's the case, where was the waving yellow?
Also, why didn't the GTR that hit the OP's car see the 1st car in the wall and all that debris?
Distracted driving? Did I miss the flagger(s)?
Glad no one was hurt, so that's good, but geesh, how did the GTR not know that there was debris all over the track coming up and slow down?
Is this distracted driving, or sleeping flaggers, or something else?
Pretty scary stuff. Glad no one was hurt.

sbelles

Sightlines are part of what gives that corner a high pucker factor. The GTR wouldn't have been able to see the original incident until he was already at track out. There were also cars obscuring his view after that but he should have seen the two cars in front of him checking up before he put a wheel off. Now it's possible that he saw the dust clould on the other side of the track and was distracted for a moment...

fatbillybob

I have not raced there yet. Could the GTR have used the grass on the left? It seemed like the left grass is pretty wide. Do a lot of cars eat it there because they try and save it and fail?

GT3DE

Maybe not stop on the racing line next time.

Thundermoose

That corner is tough IMO. There is a flagger right after the bridge but the turn is somewhat blind at the crest. The trick to being fast through the downhill corner is to look ahead not at apex . I suspect GTR was not looking ahead.

I looked at video and quality (or my eye sight) is poor and I could not tell what the flag stations are holding.

Circuit Motorsports

Everyone is at fault there. The Vette who was the first crash is the root cause.

Then the EVO essentially stopping on the track.

Then the Neon doing the same thing.

Then the GTR not being heads up enough to see this happening.

LuigiVampa

Watched it on my phone at first and hard to make out. I see it now that I watched in on my computer.

Just bad track awareness for the last car but overall it could have been handled better by the lead car.

This is almost like people who throw out the boat anchor when the checker flag is thrown not realizing someone is behind them finishing their hot lap.

Circuit Motorsports

That grass is not wide and it is not a decision most anyone would think about making in that situation.

Turn 12 is a fully committed turn. Once you turn in you are generally going to be at that speed or there about at corner exit with minimal ability to change much until the car is at corner exit because a lift or brakes will almost guarantee you will hit a wall. It's a concrete canyon that eats cars regularly. Most of the time it is someone who tracks out wide and then corrects to quickly and loops it into the inside wall.

mglobe