Yes, scary place! As far as I'm concerned, that grass is not a racing surface. It might be better then rear ending someone but the outcome is not likely to be good.

 

+991

This is how I see it.

 

I was on the receiving end of a nearly identical impact in the same corner a few months ago. Only I was much further back in full view coming down the hill and the car was still crashing in front of me. It crossed track coming down hill, back into wall and then propelled right back on track again stopping right in the middle, then finally gaining control and moving right. There was no way to pass without and risking car to car impact. .The driver who hit me was also much further back. In this case, it seems that the GT-R driver clipped the curb at the apex of 12, propelling him out into the dirt. Once in the dirt there is no braking. You see his line change ever so slightly but abruptly. This means he was fully in the red mist turning in to early and following the line of the car in front instead of his own line. His car had no chance to stop once he reached the apex of 12 IMO. His corner speed did not justify tracking out into the dirt. But even leaning on the shoulder of that curb just a tad propels you outward significantly. In fact significantly worse than using the full curb for the turn. Time Trial/ Time Attack is Red Mist central. Doug (Neon Driver) makes a point to jab all the big name cars he beats so likely some ego involved too.

 

clearly inexperienced and had quite a bit of time to adjust his line for a pass or brake and he did neither. he kept his foot on the throttle and was accelerating while the lead car was slowing . that was an example of lack of vision and reaction. if it had been a blind entrance to a exit, it would have been worse.

 

Looks like a perfect storm of crappy circumstances. Turns out the GTR was already 2 wheels off when he noticed the world was ending right in front of him. Some kind of impact to rip a wheel right off the car...

IMO (and what I teach everyone from track drivers to my kdis), when you slam on the brakes, be sure to check your mirror, the person behind you may not even see you. Not saying that would've helped here, but ya never know.

-td [I also watched this a number of times in slow mo and didn't see any flags]

 

 

+1
Without apportioning any guilt/fault as many things seem to have lined up wrong, one lesson from this incident would be to never stop on the racing line especially at the track out of a 100mph blind turn.

 

Totes.
But the statement at the end about the GTR driving back to the pits minus a wheel and pouring out fluids is a statement as to the mindset and experience of the GTR driver.

 

Here is a look from behind the GTR

 

Again, DO NOT STOP ON THE RACING LINE.

 

This is really unusual

 

After watching the last video I'm going to have to agree with this.

 

Obviously this should be the case in normal situations, but when I look at the first video it seems like there was a lot of debris on track from the first car going into the wall, and it seems like the first Evo was trying to avoid the entire mess, thus slowing down dramatically and then the Neon did the same. How does one make the calculation to run over the debris and potentially damage the car vs. being potentially getting hit from behind in a blind corner?

 

Flags could have been very helpful. I believe there were none.

 

Dust cloud was building and parts from initial Vette crash were still spreading in video from Neon. The yellow may not have been out yet but it wasn't super slow either. They did a good job going to red quickly. Faster than I am used to seeing. As far as the yellow, I Don't think it would have helped that much. The GTR had turned into 12. At that point he was committed until the exit.