How to deal with new NASA TT and ST AVG HP rules
12-20-2017, 04:17 PM
#76
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Agreed, the rules completely ignore the potency of a C5 or C6 Corvette and never are the rules such to level the playing field. For example tire width rules only applies to rear tires. So you only get points back if you run skinny rears. Huh? Last I checked Wider tires were a benefit at either end of the car. So corvettes run 315 in the front. Some even 335's. You can't even fit those on most vehicles yet they give no concession for smaller fronts. I ran 245's for years. 315s are a full 3 inches Wider in section width, which is what NASA uses now 2.5 inches Wider than my current 275's. How is that not considered an advantage? And I'm talking about bone stock Z06's can run those.
The Corvettes win everything and they seem to want to make sure nothing challenges them. Especially a 911. Trust me, its equally frustrating. I win, but because I'm driving my car much closer to it's limit than most I compete against. But I've driven some competitors cars that I know would smoke my car given equal effort. I've thought about jumping ship to overdog but that would be too easy. I like a challenge. Plus I don't want the accompanying lack of reliability.
BTW cup cars have a penalty of .4 which would be about 35 whp on a 3000 lbs car or 225 lbs for a 450 whp car.
That's assuming both on DOT, which is a big hamstring for Cups.
The Corvettes win everything and they seem to want to make sure nothing challenges them. Especially a 911. Trust me, its equally frustrating. I win, but because I'm driving my car much closer to it's limit than most I compete against. But I've driven some competitors cars that I know would smoke my car given equal effort. I've thought about jumping ship to overdog but that would be too easy. I like a challenge. Plus I don't want the accompanying lack of reliability.
BTW cup cars have a penalty of .4 which would be about 35 whp on a 3000 lbs car or 225 lbs for a 450 whp car.
That's assuming both on DOT, which is a big hamstring for Cups.
I agree, there are many ways we can go, but im with you on the challenge. it's more satisfying when you know your driving is making up for the majority of how well you do.
I guess this is the type of discussion that makes the sport so interesting. never bored thinking about all the possibilities.
12-20-2017, 05:24 PM
#77
Agreed, the rules completely ignore the potency of a C5 or C6 Corvette and never are the rules such to level the playing field. For example tire width rules only applies to rear tires. So you only get points back if you run skinny rears. Huh? Last I checked Wider tires were a benefit at either end of the car. So corvettes run 315 in the front. Some even 335's. You can't even fit those on most vehicles yet they give no concession for smaller fronts. I ran 245's for years. 315s are a full 3 inches Wider in section width, which is what NASA uses now 2.5 inches Wider than my current 275's. How is that not considered an advantage? And I'm talking about bone stock Z06's can run those.
The Corvettes win everything and they seem to want to make sure nothing challenges them. Especially a 911. Trust me, its equally frustrating. I win, but because I'm driving my car much closer to it's limit than most I compete against. But I've driven some competitors cars that I know would smoke my car given equal effort. I've thought about jumping ship to overdog but that would be too easy. I like a challenge. Plus I don't want the accompanying lack of reliability.
BTW cup cars have a penalty of .4 which would be about 35 whp on a 3000 lbs car or 225 lbs for a 450 whp car.
That's assuming both on DOT, which is a big hamstring for Cups.
The Corvettes win everything and they seem to want to make sure nothing challenges them. Especially a 911. Trust me, its equally frustrating. I win, but because I'm driving my car much closer to it's limit than most I compete against. But I've driven some competitors cars that I know would smoke my car given equal effort. I've thought about jumping ship to overdog but that would be too easy. I like a challenge. Plus I don't want the accompanying lack of reliability.
BTW cup cars have a penalty of .4 which would be about 35 whp on a 3000 lbs car or 225 lbs for a 450 whp car.
That's assuming both on DOT, which is a big hamstring for Cups.
"Porsche 996 GT3 Cup & 997 GT3 Cup = -0.0 (ST1 & ST2 only) (may have additional Aero mods)"
12-20-2017, 07:08 PM
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That reminds me Kirbort, the old World Challenge cups were not stock cup cars, from what I remember they had all RSR parts on a cup body. Because do t forget, they had the cup challenge running all those years too and those stock cup cars weren't nearly as fast, and had quick drives.
12-20-2017, 07:19 PM
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Doesn't look like they do any more. And the 991 only carries a .2 mod factor. The 996's don't really need one. 997's would take a sequential penalty ad more than likely slicks. Those are not out of reach of a well prepped C5 or C6 Corvette.
That reminds me Kirbort, the old World Challenge cups were not stock cup cars, from what I remember they had all RSR parts on a cup body. Because do t forget, they had the cup challenge running all those years too and those stock cup cars weren't nearly as fast, and had quick drives.
That reminds me Kirbort, the old World Challenge cups were not stock cup cars, from what I remember they had all RSR parts on a cup body. Because do t forget, they had the cup challenge running all those years too and those stock cup cars weren't nearly as fast, and had quick drives.