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Old 04-25-2019, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nuvolari612
I don't know what is not true as I was not at the table but pretty sure without the Cayenne there would be no CGT capacity / funds.

Article - The project was canceled after two days of testing for the first car, in mid-1999, mostly due to Porsche's wish to build the Cayenne SUV with involvement from Volkswagen and Audi, thus requiring engineering expertise to be pulled from the motorsports division. It was also speculated that VW-Audi chairman Ferdinand Piëch wanted Audi's new Le Mans Prototype, the Audi R8 not to face competition from Porsche in 2004. Porsche did keep part of the project alive by using the 5.5 L V10 from the prototype in a concept car shown at the 2000 Paris Motor Show, mainly in an attempt to draw attention to their display. Surprising interest in the vehicle and an influx of revenue provided from the Cayenne helped Porsche decide to produce the car, and development started on a road-legal version that would be produced in small numbers at Porsche's new manufacturing facility in Leipzig.

Carbon fiber monocoque and subframe was provided by ATR of Italy which I believe also built the F50 which speaks volumes.
This is the part that doesn't make sense, considering the Carrera GT was already late in the production development stage when the Cayenne went on sale. It would have taken at least another 3-6 months to see an "influx of cash" from the Cayenne, by which time the Carrera GT had already been shown in production form in February 2003 at Geneva, and deposits were being accepted shortly thereafter.

I do agree that Wedeking likely wouldn't have signed-off on the Carrera GT if the Cayenne hadn't been in the works, but to say the Carrera GT came about because of an influx of cash from the Cayenne is nonsense (from this hastily written article, not you). The more likely reality in terms of the CGT-Cayenne relationship is that Porsche knew the Cayenne would be met with resistance from purists, and they needed a road car that would show they were still on top of their sports car game.
Old 04-26-2019, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sterling Sackey
This is the part that doesn't make sense, considering the Carrera GT was already late in the production development stage when the Cayenne went on sale. It would have taken at least another 3-6 months to see an "influx of cash" from the Cayenne, by which time the Carrera GT had already been shown in production form in February 2003 at Geneva, and deposits were being accepted shortly thereafter.

I do agree that Wedeking likely wouldn't have signed-off on the Carrera GT if the Cayenne hadn't been in the works, but to say the Carrera GT came about because of an influx of cash from the Cayenne is nonsense (from this hastily written article, not you). The more likely reality in terms of the CGT-Cayenne relationship is that Porsche knew the Cayenne would be met with resistance from purists, and they needed a road car that would show they were still on top of their sports car game.
Your own statement states - Wedeking would not have signed off on the CGT if the Cayenne hadn't been in the works influx of cash wasn't from the sales it was from the loans to build the plant for sales.

CGT offers of deposits were a much welcomed shock - it would be interesting to know if the CGT was profitable.

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CGT being serviced at Porsche Monterey, California a couple weeks ago.





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^ svedra. was on it I think
Old 06-17-2019, 01:49 PM
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yes, a new owner to the area. Its a 2004.. They had their 918 in for service then the 980. Good to see them both being driven
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Originally Posted by unotaz
Exactly. Wedekin is known to cut costs everywhere. That's why you see a whole lot of 996 parts in the CGT.
And Cayenne parts, coils, pumps, etc etc..
Old 06-17-2019, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bojali
And Cayenne parts, coils, pumps, etc etc..
And that's a very very good thing because any part number that starts 980.XXX costs a hell of a lot more than 996.XXX or similar.....!
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bojali
yes, a new owner to the area. Its a 2004.. They had their 918 in for service then the 980. Good to see them both being driven
good for them.
btw, your handle sounds familiar, are you on mark Dadgar's email list?


Originally Posted by bojali
And Cayenne parts, coils, pumps, etc etc..
right, my coil had to be replaced.


Originally Posted by isv
And that's a very very good thing because any part number that starts 980.XXX costs a hell of a lot more than 996.XXX or similar.....!
haha, goood
anything with 980 is $
front head light 8000 I think. wheels 12000 each
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Who here has the same windscreen etching?
Old 06-23-2019, 03:51 PM
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Sunday drive with the Singer and CGT



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Old 06-24-2019, 07:36 AM
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Saturday early morning coffee run. Enjoyed her so much that I never stopped at the coffee shop.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:54 AM
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The original CGT....
Old 07-01-2019, 02:53 PM
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Logged another 1k miles in this over the past two weeks. Back and forth over the mountain passes. It is so good, even after 25,000 miles it still astounds me. It never gets old!
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Old 07-01-2019, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by unotaz
Exactly. Wedekin is known to cut costs everywhere. That's why you see a whole lot of 996 parts in the CGT.
Whilst I agree, when you look at the parts that really, really matter, and are other-worldly sublime in their attention to detail and over engineered quality, a few 996 stalks and steering wheel are of no matter.

Many aspects of the car have clearly been dictated by uncompromising engineers, perhaps away from the prying eye of WW.
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:35 PM
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^ Wedekin is a business bean counter with little passion.. his blood likely blue in color and cold.
luckily the important parts of the CGT escaped his fk up.


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