Cautionary Tale of Oil Leak (timing cover)
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russw (08-09-2020)
#63
That engine appears to be still in the vehicle!
Apparently not all dealerships(?) are pulling the engine?
...also - that appears to be the lower timing chain housing cover lying there on the floor - its inside facing up.
You may recall, I mentioned the manual I have noted both upper and lower timing chain housing covers.
Apparently, there are three (3) covers - the lower one (pictured above) and two (2) upper covers - one for
each head and pair of camshafts.
Looks like a fairly involved procedure to access.
Apparently not all dealerships(?) are pulling the engine?
...also - that appears to be the lower timing chain housing cover lying there on the floor - its inside facing up.
You may recall, I mentioned the manual I have noted both upper and lower timing chain housing covers.
Apparently, there are three (3) covers - the lower one (pictured above) and two (2) upper covers - one for
each head and pair of camshafts.
Looks like a fairly involved procedure to access.
Last edited by PSEE; 05-12-2019 at 12:22 PM. Reason: additional text added
#64
It took 24 shop hours to fix mine.
I know thats an accurate number, I don't know what the shop charged PCNA. The reason I know is because thats how many working hours the car was parked in the bay. (Yes I have a tracker)
I know thats an accurate number, I don't know what the shop charged PCNA. The reason I know is because thats how many working hours the car was parked in the bay. (Yes I have a tracker)
#66
Drifting
The dealer should set you up with a loaner during that time. Best of luck with it, should be fine when they're done with it.
#67
Gives me an idea. That last pic does look like it's still in the vehicle. That means they took off the front bumper. Right? I'm thinking, I want to upgrade the front flat black grill work. Suncoast has a kit with all 5 pieces for $200 in gloss black. Now IF...IF I were to get an oil leak... See where I'm going with this.
From a technical standpoint, I understand the issue of using aluminum bolts to screw into aluminum heads. Could wind up with a serious problem. However, I wonder out loud if Porsche is using a machine to install the bolts or are they all done one at a time by an assembly man. If it's a manual operation, it's got to be a PITA.
This is not looking good for Porsche's reputation.
From a technical standpoint, I understand the issue of using aluminum bolts to screw into aluminum heads. Could wind up with a serious problem. However, I wonder out loud if Porsche is using a machine to install the bolts or are they all done one at a time by an assembly man. If it's a manual operation, it's got to be a PITA.
This is not looking good for Porsche's reputation.
#68
It was still in the car. Yes they took the whole front apart.
Will update status at next oil change.
Will update status at next oil change.
Last edited by blacksheepSpyder; 05-22-2019 at 08:36 PM. Reason: more to say
#69
Question: Is this more prone to one engine over another? Is it more prevalent for the 3.6L? The 3.0L? I am curious.... Anyone know the stats here?
#70
The service manager where my MT is sitting right now told me they have to pull the engine per Porsche warranty instructions.
I had sent him the in-car photo above and asked whether they'd be doing the job with the engine that way.
I have a almost new 2018 Panamera 4S for a loaner. Very nice. I'm not sure why the pundits/journalists are complaining about the
Panamera. 8-speed, 2.9L with 440 HP, Burmester, etc. Good rear seat legroom. Nice rear seats!
#71
Drifting
I just had an oil change done at my dealer on Friday and the tech did a thorough inspection on mine during the service for this oil leak situation. Good report thus far at 19k miles, dry as a bone. They’ll keep inspecting it at all future service appointments, but so far so good for my rig.
My SA says they have repaired a few leakers (confirmed engine out procedure), but he says many never leak. I guess it’s the lottery you don’t want to win. Keeping my fingers crossed, but I have a lot of warranty left.
Just sharing my latest experience to add to the information pipeline here on this subject.
My SA says they have repaired a few leakers (confirmed engine out procedure), but he says many never leak. I guess it’s the lottery you don’t want to win. Keeping my fingers crossed, but I have a lot of warranty left.
Just sharing my latest experience to add to the information pipeline here on this subject.
#72
Yes - good luck.
Mine was dry at 20K as well. At almost 30K seepage was detected. So, it's in for some surgery.
I have been told I'll be sent photos to show me whether my engine has a one or three piece timing chain cover setup.
Mine was dry at 20K as well. At almost 30K seepage was detected. So, it's in for some surgery.
I have been told I'll be sent photos to show me whether my engine has a one or three piece timing chain cover setup.
#73
Drifting
Yep, fingers crossed. Best of luck with yours, keep us updated!
#74
What year? Your join date shows 2017. Is it a 16 or 17 model? I'm wanting to see if it stopped in '16.