PSEE

I tried downloading the PDF again - and got the same copy. Her's page 3529 of 5966 of that manual:

blacksheepSpyder

It took 24 shop hours to fix mine. I had 6 broken bolts according to the tech.

The wifes car doesnt seem to have it.

I hope it doesnt come back.

PSEE

That engine appears to be still in the vehicle!

Apparently not all dealerships(?) are pulling the engine?


...also - that appears to be the lower timing chain housing cover lying there on the floor - its inside facing up.
You may recall, I mentioned the manual I have noted both upper and lower timing chain housing covers.
Apparently, there are three (3) covers - the lower one (pictured above) and two (2) upper covers - one for
each head and pair of camshafts.

Looks like a fairly involved procedure to access.

blacksheepSpyder

It took 24 shop hours to fix mine.

I know thats an accurate number, I don't know what the shop charged PCNA. The reason I know is because thats how many working hours the car was parked in the bay. (Yes I have a tracker)

Pam Phillips

My 2017 Macan gts has 30,000 miles. Just dropped it at the dealer with an oil leak. Was just told it would take 3-4 WEEKS to fix it. Dropping the engine, ordering parts from Germany etc.

CarGuyNVA

The dealer should set you up with a loaner during that time. Best of luck with it, should be fine when they're done with it.

///Bruce

Gives me an idea. That last pic does look like it's still in the vehicle. That means they took off the front bumper. Right? I'm thinking, I want to upgrade the front flat black grill work. Suncoast has a kit with all 5 pieces for $200 in gloss black. Now IF...IF I were to get an oil leak... See where I'm going with this.

From a technical standpoint, I understand the issue of using aluminum bolts to screw into aluminum heads. Could wind up with a serious problem. However, I wonder out loud if Porsche is using a machine to install the bolts or are they all done one at a time by an assembly man. If it's a manual operation, it's got to be a PITA.

This is not looking good for Porsche's reputation.

blacksheepSpyder

It was still in the car. Yes they took the whole front apart.

Will update status at next oil change.

///Bruce

Question: Is this more prone to one engine over another? Is it more prevalent for the 3.6L? The 3.0L? I am curious.... Anyone know the stats here?

PSEE

The service manager where my MT is sitting right now told me they have to pull the engine per Porsche warranty instructions.
I had sent him the in-car photo above and asked whether they'd be doing the job with the engine that way.

I have a almost new 2018 Panamera 4S for a loaner. Very nice. I'm not sure why the pundits/journalists are complaining about the
Panamera. 8-speed, 2.9L with 440 HP, Burmester, etc. Good rear seat legroom. Nice rear seats!

CarGuyNVA

I just had an oil change done at my dealer on Friday and the tech did a thorough inspection on mine during the service for this oil leak situation. Good report thus far at 19k miles, dry as a bone. They’ll keep inspecting it at all future service appointments, but so far so good for my rig.

My SA says they have repaired a few leakers (confirmed engine out procedure), but he says many never leak. I guess it’s the lottery you don’t want to win. Keeping my fingers crossed, but I have a lot of warranty left.

Just sharing my latest experience to add to the information pipeline here on this subject.

PSEE

Yes - good luck.

Mine was dry at 20K as well. At almost 30K seepage was detected. So, it's in for some surgery.

I have been told I'll be sent photos to show me whether my engine has a one or three piece timing chain cover setup.

CarGuyNVA

Yep, fingers crossed. Best of luck with yours, keep us updated!

///Bruce

What year? Your join date shows 2017. Is it a 16 or 17 model? I'm wanting to see if it stopped in '16.

PSEE

2015