New to Cup forum, 997.1 Cup project
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New to Cup forum, 997.1 Cup project
Hello,
Happy to be here finally as an owner! Been a RL member since it was an email list and have lusted for a Cup since first seeing 996 in 1999. I may have done something very financially imprudent and just bought Doug Bielefeld's (TX PCA guy) 2006 Cup. It's over-due for a fuel cell and I'll have the computer read this week to see how many hours are on the engine. Fun connection.... I got this car for a local (Denver) coaching client in 2010. That client never bonded with the car, because it had 50% too many pedals. Sold to Doug, who did very well with it, but last raced 2016. Will have Travis Smith (Pinnacle Motorsports, Colorado Springs), and Joe Donkel (Cervelli Technical Services, Denver) helping me get the car operational! Will try to document the process as we go! It's REALLY dirty and not coming out of the trailer, so, for now just a photo I took in 2010!
Any suggestions/experiences to share with replacing fuel cell/bladder would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks!
Joe
Happy to be here finally as an owner! Been a RL member since it was an email list and have lusted for a Cup since first seeing 996 in 1999. I may have done something very financially imprudent and just bought Doug Bielefeld's (TX PCA guy) 2006 Cup. It's over-due for a fuel cell and I'll have the computer read this week to see how many hours are on the engine. Fun connection.... I got this car for a local (Denver) coaching client in 2010. That client never bonded with the car, because it had 50% too many pedals. Sold to Doug, who did very well with it, but last raced 2016. Will have Travis Smith (Pinnacle Motorsports, Colorado Springs), and Joe Donkel (Cervelli Technical Services, Denver) helping me get the car operational! Will try to document the process as we go! It's REALLY dirty and not coming out of the trailer, so, for now just a photo I took in 2010!
Any suggestions/experiences to share with replacing fuel cell/bladder would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks!
Joe
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welcome to the world of crazy awesomeness, bragging rights and financial despair
This week I needed an exhaust clamp for my new super cup exhaust, 151.00 for a hose clamp. Oh well its a cup....
This forum has been so good to me and helped me save money on my cup cars
have fun and keep us posted
This week I needed an exhaust clamp for my new super cup exhaust, 151.00 for a hose clamp. Oh well its a cup....
This forum has been so good to me and helped me save money on my cup cars
have fun and keep us posted
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Congratulations on the purchase and you're going to luv it. The 2 shops you noted will be more than able to assist with acquiring the updated fuel cell, not an inexpensive item but what is on these cars.
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Hey Mike!!! Great to see you're still around here!!! I was told (by someone who SHOULD know) that the 997 Cup came from the factory with a fuel cell. I know the 996's came with plastic tank. Are they wrong? Can I put the plastic tank from 996 Cup in it? Thanks! And thanks, guys, for the welcome!!! Goes to Travis tomorrow!
Last edited by JR944; 02-28-2020 at 02:10 PM.
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Car saw the light of day today! Probably first time since 2016. Started and ran. Fuel pressure on reserve pump super low, main pump, just too low. Limped it into the shop. Paint is pretty tired. 2 rubs on driver side I can’t imagine how. Rear window installation is horrible! Travis literally JUST replaced his laptop and didn’t have software loaded yet to read from the car.
good news: Racekeeper with 2 cameras, radio still in place.
More soon!
good news: Racekeeper with 2 cameras, radio still in place.
More soon!
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Car’s been sitting for three years with fuel in the tank? In addition to the fuel going bad due to age, the fuel tank has foam baffles. I wouldn’t be surprised if those baffles have broken down and pieces are clogging the tank pumps pick ups. You have to replace the tank anyway, so it will be a good time to clean and check the pumps and lines. Also, Porsche has released new foam baffles that are more resistant to the current fuels.
As far as the rub spots, just spot repair them and get the car wrapped. That will be a heck of a lot cheaper than a re-spray.
As you go over the car, you’re bound to find other items that need to be addressed. When I bought my car, I knew from the PPI that there were some expired or soon to expire items that would need replacement. My shop went over the car top to bottom and corrected any other problems found. Having an experienced shop inspect the car is the only way to go, IMO.
As far as the rub spots, just spot repair them and get the car wrapped. That will be a heck of a lot cheaper than a re-spray.
As you go over the car, you’re bound to find other items that need to be addressed. When I bought my car, I knew from the PPI that there were some expired or soon to expire items that would need replacement. My shop went over the car top to bottom and corrected any other problems found. Having an experienced shop inspect the car is the only way to go, IMO.
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Thanks dogger! You’re 100% correct! I have great local guys who are also friends. Very fortunate here in CO to have super experienced, good shops! Everything will likely be new in the fuel cell! The rubs are no big deal; just disappointing to see. I had an image in my head of the car as it WAS!
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Guess what I found??!!
Found one!! Removed from “new” 997 Cup back in the day! Wasn’t cheap and one “cap” was damaged by UPS. Still, well under 1/3 of what a new bladder was quoted!
Anyone know if this white cover is the same as street car?
Thanks!
Joe
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Engine is torn down
All good news so far!
Heads are at machine shop.
Pistons look brand new to almost new (apart from carbon on top).
Can still see good cross-hatching on cylinder walls. You can see some vertical marks, but can’t feel anything at all. After consultation with Mahle engineer, those will be re-used.
Crank bearings look almost new as do rod bearings.
Plan is to replace th Ti rods with new Carillo. (Just because that’s prudent). Replacing cam followers because they are 15 years old have 180-190 hour and hydraulic internals have been known to fail. (Wear is minimal)
Motor still had factory seals in place. Coolant lines had never been touched. Going to have them welded while we’re here.
I took a paint meter to the car and found that it’s almost entirely original paint! I knew the roof rails had been done, because I was at the track when a previous owner forgot to latch the hood pins.
New paint/graphics in the works. Have a great relationship with Phil Long (local dealer group) body shop and they are treating me really well!
Heads are at machine shop.
Pistons look brand new to almost new (apart from carbon on top).
Can still see good cross-hatching on cylinder walls. You can see some vertical marks, but can’t feel anything at all. After consultation with Mahle engineer, those will be re-used.
Crank bearings look almost new as do rod bearings.
Plan is to replace th Ti rods with new Carillo. (Just because that’s prudent). Replacing cam followers because they are 15 years old have 180-190 hour and hydraulic internals have been known to fail. (Wear is minimal)
Motor still had factory seals in place. Coolant lines had never been touched. Going to have them welded while we’re here.
I took a paint meter to the car and found that it’s almost entirely original paint! I knew the roof rails had been done, because I was at the track when a previous owner forgot to latch the hood pins.
New paint/graphics in the works. Have a great relationship with Phil Long (local dealer group) body shop and they are treating me really well!