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Old 09-21-2017, 04:36 PM
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Default Ignition cut/retard for up shifts on a 997

Is there an adjustment for when and how much the car does the ignition cut/retard when upshifting on a 2008.

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Old 09-24-2017, 05:36 AM
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The shift cut time is adjustable,but the cup car ecu is locked.
Good luck trying to get it unlocked!
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About the "when", all I know is that is linked to some kind of "flex" sensor in the shift lever.
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As per above. The strain gauge in the shift lever is what feeds into the ECU and tells it to cut fuel (technically not throttle--the wdka % stays constant throughout an upshift).

Problem: You'll need to unlock the ECU to edit that... PMNA doesn't do that as far as my interactions with them have taught me...

With these cars I think there's a market for open aftermarket ECUs. Porsche must've made about 800-1000 997s. The Bosch ECUs do time out (as I have experienced myself) and the replacements are prohibitively expensive if not outright unavailable. Somebody with a ready motec-based solution should be able to sell 100 units of these things over time, or am I dreaming?
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http://www.bosch-motorsport.de/media...3105419pdf.pdf


Completely user programmable drop in ecu.
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/\ Wish that was available when we were building my car, ended up converting to a Motec M800, luckily we created a pig tail to be able to plug back into a Bosch ECU.

We did end up programming a timing cut for the upshift, make sure you also program a fuel cut or you end up throwing flames out the back.
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Finding someone who can use the bosch motorsport software is the next problem.Bosch motorsport expensive with **** support.
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Originally Posted by dass
Finding someone who can use the bosch motorsport software is the next problem.Bosch motorsport expensive with **** support.
This ! From France, the only capable people I have found are in Germany... Think VGS, RS Tuning...

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Originally Posted by dass
Finding someone who can use the bosch motorsport software is the next problem.Bosch motorsport expensive with **** support.
Autometrics,best I know of for standard and customized Bosch motorsport related problems and solutions.

http://www.autometricsmotorsports.com/
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Originally Posted by CRex
As per above. The strain gauge in the shift lever is what feeds into the ECU and tells it to cut fuel (technically not throttle--the wdka % stays constant throughout an upshift).

Problem: You'll need to unlock the ECU to edit that... PMNA doesn't do that as far as my interactions with them have taught me...
Would wiring a small resistor or amp in line upstream of the shift lever strain gauge to tweak the voltage signal offer any benefit, or would it just command a shift a split second early?
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Originally Posted by ace37
Would wiring a small resistor or amp in line upstream of the shift lever strain gauge to tweak the voltage signal offer any benefit, or would it just command a shift a split second early?
All depends on whether you're trying to retard or advance the blip, or to modify its duration. At a mechanical level this is really just a hall sensor feeding a couple mV into the bus...



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