Installing mobridge - any tips/gotchyas
#16
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This a little crazy, because today I had two customers come in with this complaint, "CD changer not available error". They both had the mobridge IPOD and phone systems. Until today I have never had to deal with this complaint in conjunction with the mobridge system. After some phone calls and some fartin around with the PIWIS tester we found a fix. On both cars the CD changer fiber optic jumper was installed but the electrical plug was still plugged in. Unplugged the electrical connectors on both cars. Using the PIWIS, go into PCM, PCM MMI, Actual control unit list, re-code control unit list. The list was as follows,
Original coding
*PCM Gateway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*CD changer
* External Amplifier
* Navigation
New Coding
*PCM Gatway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*External Amplifier
*Navigation
After removing "CD changer" and moving everything up the list, back out 1 screen. The actual and required list are now unequal, but there is now way around this. Dis-connect PIWIS, lock car, allow car to sit for approx 10-15 min. Unlock, test, no warnings present, all functions work, FM, AM, IPOD, NAV etc. Before doing this, I had done alot of things with no luck, the first time I changed the coding and did not lock the car, I had no sound on FM and AM, IPOD worked, NAV worked, but no radio, it was very strange. Both cars as of now are fixed, no warnings.
Original coding
*PCM Gateway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*CD changer
* External Amplifier
* Navigation
New Coding
*PCM Gatway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*External Amplifier
*Navigation
After removing "CD changer" and moving everything up the list, back out 1 screen. The actual and required list are now unequal, but there is now way around this. Dis-connect PIWIS, lock car, allow car to sit for approx 10-15 min. Unlock, test, no warnings present, all functions work, FM, AM, IPOD, NAV etc. Before doing this, I had done alot of things with no luck, the first time I changed the coding and did not lock the car, I had no sound on FM and AM, IPOD worked, NAV worked, but no radio, it was very strange. Both cars as of now are fixed, no warnings.
Last edited by porsche52; 11-25-2009 at 11:04 AM.
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This a little crazy, because today I had two customers come in with this complaint, "CD changer not available error". They both had the mobridge IPOD and phone systems. Until today I have never had to deal with this complaint in conjunction with the mobridge system. After some phone calls and some fartin around with the PIWIS tester we found a fix. On both cars the CD changer fiber optic jumper was installed but the electrical plug was still plugged in. Unplugged the electrical connectors on both cars. Using the PIWIS, go into PCM, PCM MMI, Actual control unit list, re-code control unit list. The list was as follows,
Original coding
*PCM Gatway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*CD changer
* External Amplifier
* Navigation
New Coding
*PCM Gatway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*External Amplifier
*Navigation
After removing "CD changer" and moving everything up the list, back out 1 screen. The actual and required list are now unequal, but there is now way around this. Dis-connect PIWIS, lock car, allow car to sit for approx 10-15 min. Unlock, test, no warnings present, all functions work, FM, AM, IPOD, NAV etc. Before doing this, I had done alot of things with no luck, the first time I changed the coding and did not lock the car, I had no sound on FM and AM, IPOD worked, NAV worked, but no radio, it was very strange. Both cars as of now are fixed, no warnings.
Original coding
*PCM Gatway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*CD changer
* External Amplifier
* Navigation
New Coding
*PCM Gatway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*External Amplifier
*Navigation
After removing "CD changer" and moving everything up the list, back out 1 screen. The actual and required list are now unequal, but there is now way around this. Dis-connect PIWIS, lock car, allow car to sit for approx 10-15 min. Unlock, test, no warnings present, all functions work, FM, AM, IPOD, NAV etc. Before doing this, I had done alot of things with no luck, the first time I changed the coding and did not lock the car, I had no sound on FM and AM, IPOD worked, NAV worked, but no radio, it was very strange. Both cars as of now are fixed, no warnings.
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* On both cars, (06 Turbo, and 06 Turbo S) it took twice as long for the PIWIS tester to communicate with the PCM than it usally does. I would bring this up with the dealer personel so they remain calm and don't give up and say its all f-up, good luck.
* The control unit list above may not match your cars control unit list. The control list is based on how your vehicle is equipped, NAV, SAT, CD, Phone etc.
* It is key that you move the control units up the list. For example you would not want to do this
*PCM Gateway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*Not coded (was CD Changer)
*External Amp
*Navagation
We called Mobridge and they were a little helpfull too.
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Just a little more info for ya.
* On both cars, (06 Turbo, and 06 Turbo S) it took twice as long for the PIWIS tester to communicate with the PCM than it usally does. I would bring this up with the dealer personel so they remain calm and don't give up and say its all f-up, good luck.
* The control unit list above may not match your cars control unit list. The control list is based on how your vehicle is equipped, NAV, SAT, CD, Phone etc.
* It is key that you move the control units up the list. For example you would not want to do this
*PCM Gateway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*Not coded (was CD Changer)
*External Amp
*Navagation
We called Mobridge and they were a little helpfull too.
* On both cars, (06 Turbo, and 06 Turbo S) it took twice as long for the PIWIS tester to communicate with the PCM than it usally does. I would bring this up with the dealer personel so they remain calm and don't give up and say its all f-up, good luck.
* The control unit list above may not match your cars control unit list. The control list is based on how your vehicle is equipped, NAV, SAT, CD, Phone etc.
* It is key that you move the control units up the list. For example you would not want to do this
*PCM Gateway
*PCM MMI
*Phone
*Not coded (was CD Changer)
*External Amp
*Navagation
We called Mobridge and they were a little helpfull too.
Long story shorter, service adv said they "couldn't figure it out" but when I picked it up I had no more errors. I thought great, they must have turned the CDC off. Worked great all night. This morning (next day), no sound from radio!? Any thoughts if they could have mis-coded something? Or possibly new problem with coincidental timing?
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Thats EXACTLY what happened to me, the jerks played around with it and turned the amp off
They know what they did, it took then 20 minutes to turn it back on
They know what they did, it took then 20 minutes to turn it back on
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Couple hours later it works again. I think I may be having the infamous no sound problem. Oh well, I love going problem to problem in my P!g. There really needs to be a formal grief counselor for P!g ownership.
Last edited by wirunner; 12-08-2009 at 01:07 PM.
#24
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Update to the never ending "how to install a mObridge" thread: This morning while searching for a pair of long lost gloves, I noticed that my dealer had unplugged the CDC loop (see my pictures on the first page of this thread) I installed.
Since my mObridge works perfectly (no errors, warnings, etc), I can only assume that the only thing required for cars equipped with CDC is to have the dealer code it off with piwis.
Since my mObridge works perfectly (no errors, warnings, etc), I can only assume that the only thing required for cars equipped with CDC is to have the dealer code it off with piwis.
#25
Update to the never ending "how to install a mObridge" thread: This morning while searching for a pair of long lost gloves, I noticed that my dealer had unplugged the CDC loop (see my pictures on the first page of this thread) I installed.
Since my mObridge works perfectly (no errors, warnings, etc), I can only assume that the only thing required for cars equipped with CDC is to have the dealer code it off with piwis.
Since my mObridge works perfectly (no errors, warnings, etc), I can only assume that the only thing required for cars equipped with CDC is to have the dealer code it off with piwis.
If so, i'll try it tonight.....
#26
So, I guess I'm really late to this party BUT can anyone guide me with some direction in installing the ABT2010? I do not know where to run the orange wires that seem to re route something. Wire ends just dont seem to fit right. I also dont have the loop that you all refer too. You guys have me worried about installing this with all those codes but if someone has a write up or knows of a link I would appreciate it tremendously.
#27
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I don't get any errors on a '06 CTTS with Mobridge but mine may be different for two reasons. I do have the old Analog Mobridge I believe. And I pulled the CDC out and installed the Mobridge in place of the CDC using the CDC Most cables and tapped into the CDC power wire. I did have to run the microphone (had like a 6' length) under the headliner and around the Panoramic sunroof all the way to the front and installed it in the overhead sunroof control panel, works good. I installed it around 3 years ago.
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I went back again and this time I worked with the Lead Tech and we were able to recode the list per above. No more errors, and the mObridge works with my phone, but I get a "No CD Changer" message when I press the CD button. This is not an error, more of a statement. No bluetooth music streaming. Thankfully, even though it took an hour, they didn't charge me anything. The service manager said, "Hey, we didn't get it to work for you...ect..." Even though they coded out the CDC for no errors...
Any thoughts? I updated the firmware last night with no luck. As this is strictly bluetooth, there is no Aux-in or iPod cable.
Mudman, any ideas?
Thanks,
TomF
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An update- now apparently my Sat radio doesn't work. Somehow it got disabled...
I am totally ready to find another solution- this is getting ridiculous!
Any thoughts or ideas?
Best,
Tom
I am totally ready to find another solution- this is getting ridiculous!
Any thoughts or ideas?
Best,
Tom