cometguy

So perhaps it's better to keep the car in either all-electric mode or in sport mode, so that the ICE doesn't keep turning on and off? (i.e., not use Hybrid mode much?)

Wilson Laidlaw

That is what I am now doing, now that I have had the oil and filter replaced by my dealer. Apparently the original oil smelt strongly of unburnt fuel. I suspect it will all be fine from next month, once I get into the warmer weather down in the south of France. I have a modern (2012) Morgan Three Wheeler there for short journeys anyway or at least I should have if it is finished. It has been away since May last year having its chassis replaced under warranty, after the original failed (broken all the way through on one of the four main fore and aft chassis tubes and a substantial crack on one of the other tubes). It has been completely rebuilt with altered front suspension geometry on the new mark 2 chassis and loads of other modifications by historic racing car specialists at the Paul Ricard Circuit, so hopefully will be an infinitely better car than the slung together heap of c**p that Morgan allowed out of their factory door.

K777

EML = Lambda sensor, cleared error code and seems ok.

Said car needs a software update to sort the oil high warning. Which they are doing next week when cars in for GPS antenna lead replacing, as they also need to remove the oil and put it back as part of the process ?

K777

I drive in epower, or charge mode, only in hybrid auto when e-power goes off when drained and close to home/work, otherwise immediately put on charge mode.
Maybe as the old SEH didn't have the auto mode or e hold mode, so I am used to my method.

SaratogaLefty

I'm curious what overall mileage you are experiencing with that mode of driving?

K777

Average is 38mpg over 2400 miles aprox, 1400 miles in electric.
average on old SEH over 38k miles was 34mpg

How is that comparing with others ?

SaratogaLefty

So does the car keep track of electric mileage vs gasoline mileage? 38mpg overall using just e-Mode and e-charge mode seems pretty good to me. I'm also assuming you fully charge the car at night, correct?

K777

It shows the miles and hours covered on electric. So simple maths gives us the gas milage. The average MPG per journey/since refuelled/since start are all combined fuel, so 38 is the combined gas/electric. Its impossible to do 38mpg on petrol only, and on electric its 99+.
My journeys are typical 8 miles to work, maybe 15 lunch time, 8 miles home, so I am usually electric. When I get home or to work there's usually some charge left unless its been very cold or very busy. It can be almost a queue all the way.
I went to the east coast at the weekend and had the usual interest in fellow road users on motorbikes, I think the mileage was around 30 overall over about 160miles , often steady flow at 60mph on single lane carriageways.

Typically it will do around 20/22 on fuel only. I am no slouch and often press the go faster button let alone sport+. And have done 150mph in it too. (legally I should point out).

Assuming its £5.50 per gallon and it does 20mpg, I have saved £385 on 2400 total miles or spent . Let alone the enormous saving on BIK compared to a 4S.

I did a 2000 mile journey across France in the old S-EH and from memory it was around 28 Mpg doing it my way, remembering that car would manage about 20 on a full charge on motorways and took a long time to recharge on steady/flattish motorway network.

Overall I am very happy with the combined MPG, hence why me and biz partner bought another two.

louver

K777, I'm assuming that your mpg figures are for imperial gallons. That makes the numbers look a bit rosier for US readers than they really are. I think the conversion factor is 1.2, so, e.g., 38 mpg in imperial gallons is only 31.7 in US. Still good, though.

K777

UK gallons, didn't realise yours were different.
I am old school (albeit not to old - I didn't do "old UK money" , still talk about MPG (UK) not litres even though we pay and fill up in litres.

Every day is a school day. Kind of weird, but then again you spell colour wrong too - will note it on future posts

SaratogaLefty

Oh man! What a party pooper! I guess I did realize that conversion factor was relevant, but I was feeling pretty good about 38 mpg!! As you say, 32 mpg is still outstanding for a car with this much power and oomph.

louver

Sorry group! I don't know why US gallons are different, nor why we spell color wrong. I guess if we used liters here, we'd be spelling them wrong too.

Wilson Laidlaw

The reason US Gallons are different probably goes back to before UK weights and measures were standardised in the early 19th century. The US gallon may originate from the Bristol gallon, from where many ships left England for the then 13 colonies/states in the 17th and 18th centuries. The standardisation of US weights and measures was I believe, led by Jefferson and Franklin, the two scientists at the top levels of the administration. Given the closeness of the early United States to France, it is perhaps surprising that the Metric system, then being developed in France, was not adopted, further distancing the new nation from its original parent.

Wilson

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cometguy

I test-drove a 2016 Panamera S E-Hybrid for a couple hours last year that was a dealer demo with about 2k miles on it. It was fully charged when I left the dealership, and I don't think I got more than 8 miles before it ran out of charge, on a mix of in-town and highway driving. That's a 10-kWh battery pack, I think; the new 2018 Panameras have the 14-kWh pack and efficiency per kWh has apparently gone up, as well. I suspect that your 10 miles is normal.