LexVan

Also call PCNA 800-767-7243 and open up a case number for the warranty coverage.

SS22

Warranty always begins from the date of the sale so you should be covered. Be assertive and persistent. Good luck!

Even if there’s no lemon law in Florida, they have laws against fraud (which includes knowingly concealing a defect) or negligence, etc. If somehow warranty doesn’t cover you, which it sounds like it should/will, don’t let the initial dealer get off that easily.

With all due respect, the lesson here shouldn’t be to not buy a hybrid. The lesson should be to not buy an expensive Porsche that is out-of-warranty without first doing a PPI (pre-purchase inspection) and also buying extended warranty. You could’ve bought a non-hybrid the same way, and a day later could’ve been stuck with a massive bill for the transmission, engine, etc. Seriously, so many things can go wrong and just because the car has relatively low miles doesn’t mean anything (there’s a reason warranties aren’t just based on mileage but also years). I hope this all works out for you in the end and as someone else said you get the silver lining of a car with a brand new battery. But do yourself a favor going forward and get extended warranty unless you wanna “self-insure” at which point no bill should shock and upset you.

SS22

Not if they knew or had reason to know of a material defect and they concealed it from him. That is generally basic law in the States but I recommended consulting a local lawyer who would better know the nuances of Florida law. It sounds like he’s covered under warranty though so should be all good.

LexVan

When the first buyer purchased the car (maybe in this case 1/26/15) and when the warranty was "punched" (started) are two different things. Hopefully in your case they are both 1/26/15. Or very-very close to the 26th.

JPhi1618

Did you see this recently active thread?

https://rennlist.com/forums/panamera...-s-hybrid.html

That guy is trying to get a battery from China and install it. There's some question of warranty there and some other good info. You probably saw it, but I wanted to highlight it just in case.

16PanaHybrid

Recently active yes, but the OP has been absent there since May 4th of last year.

I wonder if he was successful at all and just never posted back the results.

20PanGb4s

Man, that sucks, I'll never buy an ev or hybrid and especially a used one out of warranty. Hopefully you have an out.

911sccab

"Railroaded" ? Seriously?

Your circumstances are unfortunate, and I may be in the minority, but I hardly feel like you are a victim. Aside from spending money... check that, aside from borrowing money... it seems you did Zero due-diligence on the purchase of a reasonably complicated vehicle and are now pleading for someone (PCNA, dealer, lemon law, etc) to absolve you of all responsibility for your voluntary actions.

I realize you might not care, but that won't get you any sympathy from me. Lease a new Camry if you want zero responsibility. Any Panamera is an advanced and complicated machine... the Hybrids even more so. I completely understand you asking for help... that's what the group is for and we all benefit from sharing knowledge. I'm much more inclined to help those that own-up to their mistakes than those that are quick to blame others... as they may be blaming me next. We found a Panamera and than arranged for an authorized dealership to do a PPI, purchase it, CPO it, and sell it to us. That wasn't as cheap as your path. Decisions have consequences, you seemingly went with the easiest/cheapest option to procure a Panamera.

Good luck with your car... maybe a little more research will serve you well in the future.

misterzero

I was waiting for an ******* to come along. All the research in the World wouldn't have let me know that after 5 days of ownership, the batteries would fail. Sorry, I joined this group because I thought it was a good way to meet others and share my good and bad experiences. I'm not blaming anyone in particular, just shocked at how this all unfolded. And yes, I never in my wildest dreams would've thought replacement batteries would cost 20,000. That's on me. I always thought Porsche was more reliable, my bad....

Thanks Karen

misterzero

So, the Porsche dealership quoted me 19,000 for the battery replacement. I was actually going to do it until he said the warranty is for 2 years. 2 YEARS??? I just started laughing.......

stevensivak

911 is not the *******....

stevensivak

So if you were asking for a quote, does that mean that Porsche is not going to cover your issue?

SS22

Porsches are more reliable than the average luxury German car. But that doesn’t mean “no” issues and it doesn’t mean if 99/100 people have no issues with a relatively low-mile car, that the 100th person won’t have any issues either. Again, I hope your takeaway isn’t that hybrids are a problem but rather that with how expensive and complex all Porsches are, it’s really not advisable to own them with no warranty. If you do, then be prepared for the risk of paying 6 figure repair bills. Here’s an example of a guy who needed a brand new transmission replaced after his 2018 Panamera had only 30,000 miles. He was covered under warranty otherwise he would’ve had to pay an arm and a leg (I believe $20,000+ at a dealer). Source.

The 2-year warranty period that the Porsche dealer gave you makes no sense. Call PCNA as someone above suggested and open a case. I think what they told you is the 2-year Federal Emission Performance warranty (mandated by federal law). But there’s another 8-year 80,000 mile “Federal Emission Long Term Defect” warranty that was in effect back in 2016 and should apply to your situation here, even if Porsche won’t cover it with their own hybrid warranty.

LexVan

This is pretty standard, and generous. The Porsche dealership warranties their parts & repairs for 24 months. It just seems disproportional since this specific repair is such a large dollar spend.

Stop posting on Rennlist, and call the phone number I gave you yesterday. Also consider sending an email to Kjell Gruner (President), Margareta Mahlstedt (VP Customer Experience), or George Feygin (VSP General Counsel).

Email addresses are first name dot last name@porsche.us

misterzero

They are not. I'm out of warranty so I'll have to pay full price. No problem, but 2 year warranty is pretty short. I'd hate to be back in this position in 24 months......if the warranty was longer, I'd do it. Now I'm not sure.