Without pushing I was given 2% off of a 2020 custom build.

 

Are the 2020 order books open?

 

Apparently they can take an order now and ETA is around end of year / beginning of next.

 

I was told I can order but it may have to be modified when the official ordering guides are published and nothing would happen with it until orders were being accepted. The time-frame was along the lines of "fall" for an accepted order and arrival might be expected somewhere in the vicinity of "winter" which sounds a whole bunch like that particular dealer didn't know. Also mentioned was that the certification process with the hybrids was pushing time tables for some reason, don't know what meaning that may have if true.

 

Wow. Just had a dealer call and I told him to please send me his best offer. He started in on the what can I do to sell you a car right now thing and I told him to please send me his best price and if competitive we would talk. That would be when he went off on a rant telling me if I wanted a cheap Panamera he had a 97k Panamera he could sell me for 97k and was getting further revved up when I told him it appeared we were done negotiating and said my good-byes. I'm not wrong, some of these dealers are straight up admitting buyers have a strong buying position on these 18s and they know they have to discount to get them off the lot. It's one of the local guys so I know where not to go for service now. Oddly not 30 miles from this guy there is another who was aggressively offering discounts similar to what we were discussing above but the car he had ended up being minus ACC which is a deal breaker for me. Think I'm shutting it down for tonight, getting stressed now. *sigh*

 

krabman, I’m in the same boat as you. Looking at possible deals on the ’18 E-Hybrid and finding the same sort of discount levels. However, I have one eye on the ‘19s that are due for delivery to dealers 21st June (latest, but who really knows). It seems the issues with EPA/CARB certification for the US market have delayed these cars and while Porsche have offered customers 2 years additional maintenance in recompense, clearly some of those buyers are upset and moving on to 2020 orders or passing this time. The combination, while not great for Porsche, does seem to represent a good buying opportunity for both MY. Got to say I don’t like the fact these cars have been sitting in Houston humidity for over 6 months with very expensive battery systems. So if 15% is possible on an ’18, is 10%+ possible on a ’19? Maybe.

 

It's a good point and question, to the latter I've no answer. We've got a break even discount with depreciation only if 20's are ordered with a small discount. I suppose 19's would be somewhere in the middle of that equation depending on what they're going to be willing to do on discounts. I'm going back and forth on what might be the best possible scenario while a truth I hate to admit is that I want a car NOW! lol

 

Had the GM at the local dealership tell me just yesterday they were "giving great deals" on '18's. I didn't inquire because I've already have a 18 Cayenne and a 18 Macan.

 

I'm looking at it this way: I'm buying as much car as I can afford so as long as I can get a discount that covers depreciation I'll be able to get more car. I am in picking one up now, discount was 20k and a few k extra on the Jag I'm trading. I can live with that.

 

Congrats on the new Panamera! Sounds like a great deal. Hopefully you didn't get dinged too much on doc, delivery and other fees.

Enjoy the car.

 

Depreciation is better avoided buying used. Just because you got a discount doesn't really change much because I think everyone gets a decent discount on new, so the used prices are lower anyway. Real question is how much 'extra' are you giving to the dealership end of the day.

Car shopping sucks honestly and I don't know if there is a good way to 'negotiate' other than be willing to buy a less desirable. When spending so much money, you're best of getting what you want.

 

Yes, however we need to factor in the additional PHEV tax credit $6,700 for buying new in the US vs used. Some States offer more credits and many countries have similar programs. There are quite a few 2018 MY E-Hybrids on dealer lots so it's possible to get quite close to what you want, soon the 2019 MY E-Hybrids will add to the pool.

 

So what is the discount percent of MSRP, OP?

Congrats on your car

 

Seems like 13 was where they started dropping out of the running and by 15 they were stalling out hard. My total was 16.793% all in. Not sure if 20 is possible, seemed to me like it might be if a person was willing to go after oddballs and/or found a dealer who needed to move some tin. Or I suppose if they were better negotiators than I am. Overall I'm happy except for the part where a semi threw a big chunk of retread which went under the car two hours after I rolled out of the dealership. The only damage seems to be that it's slightly scuffed a little underneath the front end there, looks the same as if scratched when rolling over a low curb. It isn't visible unless you lay on the ground and even then it's barely noticeable. Still it's there and I know it. Quite stressful at first because I was expecting worse; it made a solid thunk. I guess I got the first one over with quick. O_o

 

It depends on the base model for 2018 for the discount. I picked up a well-optioned 2018 Turbo Sports Turismo for 24% off. I found several cars and emailed the dealers - once they confirmed the car was in stock, I asked for what kind of sales price they could offer. Most asked me to provide an offer and I started with ~28% - they will say it's not possible and usually offered 15% off. I then just waited and 3 out of the 7 dealers emailed me back after a week with a discount closer to 20%. With some more negotiating, I ended up with 24% with the dealer that had the color I wanted.