Feedback/assistance 2016 Panamera GTS
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Feedback/assistance 2016 Panamera GTS
Hello,
I’m seriously considering purchasing a 2016 GTS instead putting in an order for 2019 GTS. This is purely a budget decision ($82K vs $150K. Anyway, I would really appreciate some feedback on this particular build as I’m still not as well versed with all the options as I should be.
Here’s some specs from the build sheet (see attached):
2016 1 owner CPO with 13K miles
I’ve got the dealer to agree to $82,500
BASE - Panamera GTS
213 - Ski Bag
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
345 - Steering wheel heating
417 - 20" RS Spyder Design Wheels
541 - Seat Ventilation (Front)
569 - Side Skirts Painted
576 - 4-Zone Climate Control
638 - ParkAssist (Front and Rear) with Reversing Camera
680 - BOSE® Surround Sound System
70001 - Z-Option: Paint to Sample
712 - Deletion of Model Designation on Side Doors
715 - Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) incl. PTV Plus
789 - Code for Exterior Paint to Sample
844 - Multifunction steering wheel
99 - Exterior Paint to Sample Metallic (Meteor Gray)
AC - Leather Interior in Black
P43 - Premium Package
I love the color and hear PDCC is a good option. Are there any options this build doesn’t have that I should consider? I’m not worried about a high-end sound system or window blinds - I’m primarily interested in performance options.
Thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide!
I’m seriously considering purchasing a 2016 GTS instead putting in an order for 2019 GTS. This is purely a budget decision ($82K vs $150K. Anyway, I would really appreciate some feedback on this particular build as I’m still not as well versed with all the options as I should be.
Here’s some specs from the build sheet (see attached):
2016 1 owner CPO with 13K miles
I’ve got the dealer to agree to $82,500
BASE - Panamera GTS
213 - Ski Bag
250 - Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
345 - Steering wheel heating
417 - 20" RS Spyder Design Wheels
541 - Seat Ventilation (Front)
569 - Side Skirts Painted
576 - 4-Zone Climate Control
638 - ParkAssist (Front and Rear) with Reversing Camera
680 - BOSE® Surround Sound System
70001 - Z-Option: Paint to Sample
712 - Deletion of Model Designation on Side Doors
715 - Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) incl. PTV Plus
789 - Code for Exterior Paint to Sample
844 - Multifunction steering wheel
99 - Exterior Paint to Sample Metallic (Meteor Gray)
AC - Leather Interior in Black
P43 - Premium Package
I love the color and hear PDCC is a good option. Are there any options this build doesn’t have that I should consider? I’m not worried about a high-end sound system or window blinds - I’m primarily interested in performance options.
Thanks in advance for any feedback you can provide!
Last edited by hdavidson; 01-13-2019 at 09:46 AM.
#3
Agree with Outlaw. Very similar to my 2014, option wise. Price looks good too.
#4
Instructor
Thread Starter
I appreciate the initial feedback. Perhaps the other questions I should have asked is
1. Is this a fair price?
2. Would I be better off trying to get a newer 4S for just a little bit more $?
Thamks again!
1. Is this a fair price?
2. Would I be better off trying to get a newer 4S for just a little bit more $?
Thamks again!
#5
Instructor
1. Is this a fair price?
I'm assuming this car is being sold by a porsche dealer with a CPO. I think the price is reasonable considering the spec of the car. PDCC is fairly uncommon and the PTS color adds a premium as well. GTS models tend to have the lowest depreciation of the range. The price reflects this.
2. Would I be better off trying to get a newer 4S for just a little bit more $?
Better off? That depends on what you are looking for. A little newer means a '17 or'18 971. That is a very different car with a very different driving experience. A 970.2 GTS with PDCC will be a very sporty, engaging drive. The NA 4.8 V8 has lots of character and lots of sounds. A newer 971 4S, not so much. The 971 is a new generation with all the advancements (and new model teething issues) that come with it. If you are considering a 971 then you must drive both, preferable back to back. You will know right away which direction to go. Good Luck.
I'm assuming this car is being sold by a porsche dealer with a CPO. I think the price is reasonable considering the spec of the car. PDCC is fairly uncommon and the PTS color adds a premium as well. GTS models tend to have the lowest depreciation of the range. The price reflects this.
2. Would I be better off trying to get a newer 4S for just a little bit more $?
Better off? That depends on what you are looking for. A little newer means a '17 or'18 971. That is a very different car with a very different driving experience. A 970.2 GTS with PDCC will be a very sporty, engaging drive. The NA 4.8 V8 has lots of character and lots of sounds. A newer 971 4S, not so much. The 971 is a new generation with all the advancements (and new model teething issues) that come with it. If you are considering a 971 then you must drive both, preferable back to back. You will know right away which direction to go. Good Luck.
#6
The only performance option lacking is Ceramic Brakes. However, the iron rotors work well and PDCC is more desirable, as others have noted. The naturally aspirated V8 engine of the 970 GTS with standard Sport Exhaust sounds really good vs Turbo-V6. If budget is a priority, what more are you looking for in a 971 4S, aside from exterior styling and interior changes? The 970 GTS is 10mm lower than a non-GTS... lower center of gravity and better handling.
#7
Instructor
Thread Starter
All great responses! This has really helped me think through why I’m hesitating. I think it comes down to I feel like I’m setting - I know 1st world problems. I feel like complete brat for saying that.
However, after having spent time putting together a build for a 2019 GTS, I’m having a hard time getting excited about pulling the trigger on this one. I know this an incredible car and checks all the right boxes. I’m just having a hard time getting emotionally invested in it. This is clearly not good when you’re spending anything like this kind of money.
Although I previously stated performance was my primary hot button, I think the 971 exterior redesign and the updated tech is creating a lot of doubt in my mind. The fact is I have a fantastic GT4 for ripping around the street and track so I’m realizing the aesthetics and creature comforts are really a higher priority.
I’m probably going to hold off for now until I can process what I’m really wanting for my next daily driver. I definitely appreciate everyone’s feedback. I’ll update the post once I’ve pulled the trigger on something...
Cheers!
However, after having spent time putting together a build for a 2019 GTS, I’m having a hard time getting excited about pulling the trigger on this one. I know this an incredible car and checks all the right boxes. I’m just having a hard time getting emotionally invested in it. This is clearly not good when you’re spending anything like this kind of money.
Although I previously stated performance was my primary hot button, I think the 971 exterior redesign and the updated tech is creating a lot of doubt in my mind. The fact is I have a fantastic GT4 for ripping around the street and track so I’m realizing the aesthetics and creature comforts are really a higher priority.
I’m probably going to hold off for now until I can process what I’m really wanting for my next daily driver. I definitely appreciate everyone’s feedback. I’ll update the post once I’ve pulled the trigger on something...
Cheers!
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#8
For $80,000 you could get a low mileage turbo S 2014-2015....but I'm bias!
If you're dead set on a GTS that is a really nice combo and checks the right boxes. If you're going 970, you might try to find that perfect 2012-2013 GTS with low miles and save even more money, and then you won't be so invested that you can't get a 971 GTS in a year or something....that's another option to think about, since the GTS do seem to hold value pretty well. You definitely want all of the handling options which is why I held out for a Turbo S. Its worth it.
If you're dead set on a GTS that is a really nice combo and checks the right boxes. If you're going 970, you might try to find that perfect 2012-2013 GTS with low miles and save even more money, and then you won't be so invested that you can't get a 971 GTS in a year or something....that's another option to think about, since the GTS do seem to hold value pretty well. You definitely want all of the handling options which is why I held out for a Turbo S. Its worth it.
#9
Instructor
Thread Starter
This is the build I’m leaning towards. I’ve tried to cut out a lot of the nice to have and stick what I felt is most important to me:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PKP1R2W9
I appreciate any feedback. Apparently the build would lock in Feb with a delivery target of May.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PKP1R2W9
I appreciate any feedback. Apparently the build would lock in Feb with a delivery target of May.
#10
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This is the build I’m leaning towards. I’ve tried to cut out a lot of the nice to have and stick what I felt is most important to me:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PKP1R2W9
I appreciate any feedback. Apparently the build would lock in Feb with a delivery target of May.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PKP1R2W9
I appreciate any feedback. Apparently the build would lock in Feb with a delivery target of May.
#11
This is the build I’m leaning towards. I’ve tried to cut out a lot of the nice to have and stick what I felt is most important to me:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PKP1R2W9
I appreciate any feedback. Apparently the build would lock in Feb with a delivery target of May.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PKP1R2W9
I appreciate any feedback. Apparently the build would lock in Feb with a delivery target of May.
#12
Burning Brakes
Very nice build, that will be a fun car.
#13
Yes, very nice build. Consider ventilated seats if you live in the south? Add Smoking Package ($0 cost option) for extra 12V outlet?