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Old 10-10-2018, 05:43 PM
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I'm approaching 60k in my 2013 GTS. Dealership is telling me 3-5k more miles and I need new rotors and new pads-- sound right? I was hoping just pads or nothing at all needed for some time... normal driving, no tracking.

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Old 10-10-2018, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GBG View Post
I'm approaching 60k in my 2013 GTS. Dealership is telling me 3-5k more miles and I need new rotors and new pads-- sound right? I was hoping just pads or nothing at all needed for some time... normal driving, no tracking.

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How long do you expect a performance sedanís brakes to last? This isnít an Accord.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:25 PM
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60k miles imo is past due. more like 40k or so. but depends on driver too.
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Old 10-10-2018, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pointbye View Post

How long do you expect a performance sedanís brakes to last? This isnít an Accord.
There are far worse cars out there than Porsches in this regard. I'd had two Panameras, a 2010 4S and 2013 GTS, prior to an Audi RS7. About 35K miles on each car when traded in. Neither Porsche had even needed pads. The Audi had been through a full set of rotors and pads - and the second rotors were getting close to needing replacement when I traded in the car on my current Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo. So - at least compared to the RS7 - Panamera rotors and pads last nearly forever!!

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Old 10-12-2018, 08:29 PM
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:51 PM
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I have 54,000 miles and original pads, have been told I will need new rotors when pads are changed but no date given.
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Old 10-13-2018, 11:39 AM
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I honestly thought the days of changing pads and leaving the rotors were over about 15 years ago for European marques.
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:22 PM
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I honestly thought the days of changing pads and leaving the rotors were over about 15 years ago for European marques.
I don't know why that would be the case, other than the same old trick of getting owners to pay for rotors when you don't need them. If you're hard on the brakes they are going to wear out faster. I'm sure changing pads and not rotors is viable for some cars still. Audi RS7 brakes wear out way faster and cost way more than the Panamera from my experience.
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Old 10-14-2018, 01:50 AM
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Rotors will be in good shape as pads wear and need replacement.
Issue is if you want to machine panamera turbo rotors, they are two piece, means machining will be hard as two piece rotors create vibration that may cause uneven machining.
Some shops wont want to do. I just did this to my front rotors, with good result, but still feel slight vibration when braking. Added new ceramic pads.
So in near future I will be putting on new rotors and another set of new pads to make sure my car is 100%.
With ceramic rotors, pads will wear out and rotors will be almost new. So only pad change is needed, but you then fall into the scenario of whether or not to machine rotors before putting new pads on them. I would machine, as only perfect smooth surface will give you good feel.
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Old 10-14-2018, 09:08 AM
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Going through a bedding process after installing pads is important and makes a huge difference. I did this to a friends Audi as they were to scared, after the brakes started squeaking post new dealer install. Dealers donít bed the brakes typically.

Bedding helps match new pads with new or old rotors which reduces noise, inconsistency in feel, and surging.

https://www.zeckhausen.com/catalog/i...Path=6446_6443
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Old 10-15-2018, 05:32 PM
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It's hard for me to know if I really new need new rotors or if my dealer just sees it as "best practices" (and to grab a few extra bucks in labor and throw a bone to his parts pals). I can get a "second opinion" from a indy mechanic, but then it becomes a "who do ya trust". From this thread, it sounds like 60k is about the time that new rotors are needed. I definitely need new pads. So, I'll probably suck it up and do both. Does $4500 all-in sound about right (rotors, pads, other misc related parts, labor)? That's the quote I got from dealer. Thanks!
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Seems like a lot of labor. The parts are about $2500
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Originally Posted by GBG View Post
It's hard for me to know if I really new need new rotors or if my dealer just sees it as "best practices" (and to grab a few extra bucks in labor and throw a bone to his parts pals). I can get a "second opinion" from a indy mechanic, but then it becomes a "who do ya trust". From this thread, it sounds like 60k is about the time that new rotors are needed. I definitely need new pads. So, I'll probably suck it up and do both. Does $4500 all-in sound about right (rotors, pads, other misc related parts, labor)? That's the quote I got from dealer. Thanks!
Regarding the rotors, one thing you can check yourself is if they are scored- run your finger over them (when they're cool of course!) If they're rough , yeah they probably need replacement. But if there are all still smooth, it's probably 50/50 whether their thickness has gone below specs. Your Porsche dealer should have the rotor thickness listed this in their report.
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