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Old 12-06-2013, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
I wonder if they'll call the EcoBoost model an SVO?
I was thinking the same thing, that would be cool!
Old 12-06-2013, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jimq
Its kind of like the 911. There is only so much you can change the body yet still have it keep the same basic original form.
I don't see it as at all like the 911. Look at the original 1963 911 and a 2013 911. Very clear direct lineage.

The mustang has completely changed its appearance many times. I see virtually no design clues that have carried through the various versions.

Dodge, on the other hand, did a fantastic job of modern retro with the Challenger.

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Old 12-06-2013, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuda911
I don't see it as at all like the 911. Look at the original 1963 911 and a 2013 911. Very clear direct lineage.
Excellence in design stands the test of time. The '63 911 still pleases the eye. The '64 Mustang just looks old.

Originally Posted by Cuda911
The mustang has completely changed its appearance many times. I see virtually no design clues that have carried through the various versions.

Dodge, on the other hand, did a fantastic job of modern retro with the Challenger.
To be fair, the '78-'83 Challenger didn't look at all like either of those, and since the Fox body you posted is of the same era, you need to look up that turd of a Challenger as well.

The retro Challenger is equivalent to the S197 Mustang. The S550 Mustang is a next-gen that has no counter from Challenger yet. Will they? Can they? Remains to be seen.

The 911 remains an iconic classic. The Mustang has always been there, for better or for worse. The Challenger, no. A one-time rehash of a former design does not equate to a success of continuity.
Old 12-06-2013, 02:38 PM
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It would be interesting to see a revival of the original Trans Am series now the three big players all have decent and similar cars.
got it already, Continental Tire Challenge Series. Only racing on TV I'll stop and watch the whole thing. Great mix that also includes Astons, 911 ( not GT3 ), Camaros, Mustangs, etc. Real cars racing and it's good stuff. Texas Rider needs to come along. Bought one of the "Gotta Have it Green" Mustang Boss last year. That one has the solid axle but has nothing but f good to say. This one will be even better with the IRS.
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Originally Posted by Red1
To be fair, the '78-'83 Challenger didn't look at all like either of those, and since the Fox body you posted is of the same era, you need to look up that turd of a Challenger as well.
Good point there. 1980's era Challenger sucked royally, and like that similar vintage mustang, had no relationship to previous versions. However, at least with the new Challenger, they revert back to earlier design. The Mustang never has stayed with any continuous design theme.

Corvette is another good example of a car that keeps evolving, rather than springing from one design to another. As different as they are from one another, one can clearly see the lineage from a 1968 Stingray to a 2014 Stingray.

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To me the front looks like a Ford Fusion
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Old 12-06-2013, 05:11 PM
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The car should be dynamically better with the IRS and lighter, stiffer chassis. Looks wise, it's like going from a C5 to C6 Corvette. We were hoping for more like a C6 to C7 design wise.
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Great and good to know.

Originally Posted by Own Goal
got it already, Continental Tire Challenge Series. Only racing on TV I'll stop and watch the whole thing. Great mix that also includes Astons, 911 ( not GT3 ), Camaros, Mustangs, etc. Real cars racing and it's good stuff. Texas Rider needs to come along. Bought one of the "Gotta Have it Green" Mustang Boss last year. That one has the solid axle but has nothing but f good to say. This one will be even better with the IRS.
Old 12-06-2013, 05:48 PM
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If you want a 400 hp 2+2 coupe with a manual and RWD there aren't many choices.

The 911 and Mustang are two options that come to mind. I'm excited to see the next Boss 302.
Old 12-06-2013, 05:54 PM
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I think the new Mustang looks really good, and the interior looks like a big step forward in quality. I'm looking forward to seeing it in person
Old 12-06-2013, 06:08 PM
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I'm not a Mustang guy, but I saw some profile shots of the new model that looked pretty sharp. Bigger question is how well it will drive, though. I know there's plenty of cheap mods for power, but in day-to-day driving I just wasn't very excited by the last one I drove.

But then, I am a spoiled and entitled S.O.B.
Old 12-06-2013, 06:11 PM
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I like it....

Looks better than the Camaro...
Old 12-06-2013, 06:59 PM
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Looks like the designer sneezed and and added an extra facia...

Seems like they're trying to hard...

They took the Aston Grille and over did it... Gawdy...
Old 12-06-2013, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JimV8
I like it. BTW those little ridges and creases in the body add strength to the panels and allows the use of thinner and lighter materials.
So now we are in elementary school again??? you are gonna tell a room full of car guys about the purpose of ridges in sheet metal??? sorry, it just hits me funny.
Old 12-06-2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fskof
To me the front looks like a Ford Fusion
Wow... those side by side photos of the Fusion and Mustang... you are right! Almost the same car from that angle.


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