Sport Chrono, is it worth it?
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I had Sport Chrono on both my Cayman and my current Panamera 4. It is a must-have option in my opinion - even on - maybe ESPECIALLY on - the lower-end models. Sport+ changes the whole driving dynamic of the car and really makes the car feel faster and sportier. Personally, I don't care much about 0-60 times and have never tracked a car or used launch control. I just want the car to handle well and FEEL fast while I'm driving it. SC allows the car to do just that and allows me to save a significant amount of money by forgoing the larger engine.
#17
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I had Sport Chrono on both my Cayman and my current Panamera 4. It is a must-have option in my opinion - even on - maybe ESPECIALLY on - the lower-end models. Sport+ changes the whole driving dynamic of the car and really makes the car feel faster and sportier. Personally, I don't care much about 0-60 times and have never tracked a car or used launch control. I just want the car to handle well and FEEL fast while I'm driving it. SC allows the car to do just that and allows me to save a significant amount of money by forgoing the larger engine.
#18
Burning Brakes
that said, I have no doubt the car will be quite capable without the sport+, and you can always use manual mode to downshift to make the jump around the car ahead. Plus, Sport+ , at least on my 991 C4S, drains the tank pretty quickly!
#19
Former Vendor
In an urgent situation, simply tap the left paddle shifter a couple times to drop gears, then hit throttle (or with PDK, just stay on throttle while it downshifts!).
True, the actual shift times are faster with SC in S+ mode, but to me the biggest thing I notice is the throttle response. This is how I tend to describe it to a client: "while in S+ mode, depressing the throttle the first 20% of travel causes a reaction as though you had depressed it maybe ~35%. And depressing it 60% down is comparable to pressing it 100% full-throttle in regular drive mode." [total guesstimates] but that seems to make sense.
#20
Racer
Thread Starter
I don't think SC will help in the situation you described here--if there's an urgent situation, you'd likely not going to a) take a hand off the wheel, b) divert your eyes from the road to locate the button (if you haven't mastered it by touch alone), and c) press the button, then d) mash the pedal...
In an urgent situation, simply tap the left paddle shifter a couple times to drop gears, then hit throttle (or with PDK, just stay on throttle while it downshifts!).
True, the actual shift times are faster with SC in S+ mode, but to me the biggest thing I notice is the throttle response. This is how I tend to describe it to a client: "while in S+ mode, depressing the throttle the first 20% of travel causes a reaction as though you had depressed it maybe ~35%. And depressing it 60% down is comparable to pressing it 100% full-throttle in regular drive mode." [total guesstimates] but that seems to make sense.
In an urgent situation, simply tap the left paddle shifter a couple times to drop gears, then hit throttle (or with PDK, just stay on throttle while it downshifts!).
True, the actual shift times are faster with SC in S+ mode, but to me the biggest thing I notice is the throttle response. This is how I tend to describe it to a client: "while in S+ mode, depressing the throttle the first 20% of travel causes a reaction as though you had depressed it maybe ~35%. And depressing it 60% down is comparable to pressing it 100% full-throttle in regular drive mode." [total guesstimates] but that seems to make sense.
I wish they added the Sport+ button on the steering wheel like Ferrari...
#21
Racer
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I had Sport Chrono on both my Cayman and my current Panamera 4. It is a must-have option in my opinion - even on - maybe ESPECIALLY on - the lower-end models. Sport+ changes the whole driving dynamic of the car and really makes the car feel faster and sportier. Personally, I don't care much about 0-60 times and have never tracked a car or used launch control. I just want the car to handle well and FEEL fast while I'm driving it. SC allows the car to do just that and allows me to save a significant amount of money by forgoing the larger engine.
#22
I'm not going to get it. But reading this thread, honestly I think you would really enjoy it. When making these kinds of decisions if it's something you think you might regret not getting, don't risk it. It's really about the personal individual build concept. There's a lot of nice options that don't feed into that and that's where you compromise on price point. But stay true to your vision. IMO
#23
Racer
Thread Starter
Thanks Buck!
Read this:
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Verdict
If having the ultimate is what matters, then the Porsche Macan Turbo is the model for you. But, it's worth considering whether you really need it. The standard Macan S with the Sport Chrono pack and the PASM active suspension fitted will feel almost identical from behind the wheel. You're sacrificing a bit of performance but you're also saving a lot of cash in the process, and you'll still end up with the best-handling compact SUV on the road.
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche...#ixzz2t84gUPU7
If having the ultimate is what matters, then the Porsche Macan Turbo is the model for you. But, it's worth considering whether you really need it. The standard Macan S with the Sport Chrono pack and the PASM active suspension fitted will feel almost identical from behind the wheel. You're sacrificing a bit of performance but you're also saving a lot of cash in the process, and you'll still end up with the best-handling compact SUV on the road.
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche...#ixzz2t84gUPU7
#26
Rennlist Member
I did not add this to my Turbo spec. My thoughts after reading this and other threads on the SC option, while it sounds like a nice option to have, not sure how much practical utility I'd get from it.
The PCM additions & launch control- prob play with them a few times, and never use again. The clock on the dash, is this nicer than the standard? Sport Plus is already available with PASM, but paired with the SC option, appears to transform the drive. However, some have stated it would be uncomfortable and overkill for normal street driving.
Sport mode is great in the Cayenne, and I only have a V6. I can't imagine what Sport Plus w SC would do in a Macan Turbo.
I guess I don't know what I don't know...
The PCM additions & launch control- prob play with them a few times, and never use again. The clock on the dash, is this nicer than the standard? Sport Plus is already available with PASM, but paired with the SC option, appears to transform the drive. However, some have stated it would be uncomfortable and overkill for normal street driving.
Sport mode is great in the Cayenne, and I only have a V6. I can't imagine what Sport Plus w SC would do in a Macan Turbo.
I guess I don't know what I don't know...
#27
Rennlist Member
I did not add this to my Turbo spec. My thoughts after reading this and other threads on the SC option, while it sounds like a nice option to have, not sure how much practical utility I'd get from it.
The PCM additions & launch control- prob play with them a few times, and never use again. The clock on the dash, is this nicer than the standard? Sport Plus is already available with PASM, but paired with the SC option, appears to transform the drive. However, some have stated it would be uncomfortable and overkill for normal street driving.
Sport mode is great in the Cayenne, and I only have a V6. I can't imagine what Sport Plus w SC would do in a Macan Turbo.
I guess I don't know what I don't know...
The PCM additions & launch control- prob play with them a few times, and never use again. The clock on the dash, is this nicer than the standard? Sport Plus is already available with PASM, but paired with the SC option, appears to transform the drive. However, some have stated it would be uncomfortable and overkill for normal street driving.
Sport mode is great in the Cayenne, and I only have a V6. I can't imagine what Sport Plus w SC would do in a Macan Turbo.
I guess I don't know what I don't know...
need to test drive a vehicle with/without the option...
some people (like myself) will swear that specifying a car without Sports Chrono, PCCB, PDCC, etc etc is a HUGE mistake, and other will swear that adding such options are either a total waste of money or will result in a
horrible ride, or something you wont be able to sell or monetize later.
at the end of the day, its your money and your car, get the most car you can afford and enjoy it ...
having said that, PASM+air sounds like a must have, as IMO does Sports Chrono (and PCCB when it becomes available)
YMMV
#28
Rennlist Member
options that materially effect the performance are really highly subjective, so I think the best advice you can obtain wrt selecting them, or not, is basically you
need to test drive a vehicle with/without the option...
some people (like myself) will swear that specifying a car without Sports Chrono, PCCB, PDCC, etc etc is a HUGE mistake, and other will swear that adding such options are either a total waste of money or will result in a
horrible ride, or something you wont be able to sell or monetize later.
at the end of the day, its your money and your car, get the most car you can afford and enjoy it ...
having said that, PASM+air sounds like a must have, as IMO does Sports Chrono (and PCCB when it becomes available)
YMMV
need to test drive a vehicle with/without the option...
some people (like myself) will swear that specifying a car without Sports Chrono, PCCB, PDCC, etc etc is a HUGE mistake, and other will swear that adding such options are either a total waste of money or will result in a
horrible ride, or something you wont be able to sell or monetize later.
at the end of the day, its your money and your car, get the most car you can afford and enjoy it ...
having said that, PASM+air sounds like a must have, as IMO does Sports Chrono (and PCCB when it becomes available)
YMMV
PASM+AS are on my spec, PDCC & PCCB as you know aren't available. From all accounts on the Cayenne forums, all are must haves. But with the aforementioned options, those all impact the daily drive. Sports Chrono is a feature that must be turned on, and even then, it sounds like it isn't suitable for daily driving.
All that said, I enjoy reading the different perspectives and by no means am I trying to be argumentative. All of this very informative and helps my decision making process.
#29
Rennlist Member
I think you raise great points. Most options are highly subjective, I guess I'm trying to talk myself into adding it.
PASM+AS are on my spec, PDCC & PCCB as you know aren't available. From all accounts on the Cayenne forums, all are must haves. But with the aforementioned options, those all impact the daily drive. Sports Chrono is a feature that must be turned on, and even then, it sounds like it isn't suitable for daily driving.
All that said, I enjoy reading the different perspectives and by no means am I trying to be argumentative. All of this very informative and helps my decision making process.
PASM+AS are on my spec, PDCC & PCCB as you know aren't available. From all accounts on the Cayenne forums, all are must haves. But with the aforementioned options, those all impact the daily drive. Sports Chrono is a feature that must be turned on, and even then, it sounds like it isn't suitable for daily driving.
All that said, I enjoy reading the different perspectives and by no means am I trying to be argumentative. All of this very informative and helps my decision making process.
from the review sounds like PASM+air might obviate PDCC on the Macan ... I believe PCCB will come eventually since I saw a couple of reports with pictures of the rotors/calipers etc...
I think you should certainly get PASM+air as for SC, if you get it and you dont like it ... dont push the button!
enjoy!