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Old 05-13-2024, 11:03 AM
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Default Best UHP all-seasons for 20" wheels

Hey all, I'm going to be needing a set of tires for my '23 S, and I was wondering what other Rennlist members are running on their Macans. Mine came with the Michelin Latitude all-seasons, but I'm looking for an ultra-high performance all-season. I put around 8k miles a year on my Macan and I do mostly city driving, spirited driving and a couple autocross sessions in a year. I don't get a ton of snow where I live, but winters are cold, with temperatures getting below 20°F. Initially, I wanted to go for the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4, but they don't offer those in my size, which are 265/45R20 in front and 295/40R20 rear. I'm looking at the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus or the Falken Azenis FK460 A/S. Does anyone here run these tires or have any recommendations? Cheers!



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I run the Michelin P/S All Season 4 tires on my 21-inch wheels and am very pleased with their performance. Have you considered 21-inch wheels? If not, I'd seriously consider the Continental DWS. They've gotten excellent reviews and I have a couple friends that run them on their 911's.
As for pricing, try your local Porsche dealer. They can usually meet or beat Tire Rack prices.
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Originally Posted by DBH
I run the Michelin P/S All Season 4 tires on my 21-inch wheels and am very pleased with their performance. Have you considered 21-inch wheels? If not, I'd seriously consider the Continental DWS. They've gotten excellent reviews and I have a couple friends that run them on their 911's.
As for pricing, try your local Porsche dealer. They can usually meet or beat Tire Rack prices.
I didn't spec the 21' wheels when I ordered mine because the standard 20" Macan S wheels are my favorite style. Not having known that there were minimal options of UHP A/S tires for the 20s, I probably would've went for 21" wheels. I don't want to spend $4k+ for a set of OEM 21" wheels, so I'm going to stick with the 20s. My friend runs the Conti DWS on his C8, and loves them, but I've had bad experiences with Contis in the past with my old Land Rover LR4, which makes me slightly apprehensive, but still very much open to them.
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Conti DWS06 Plus is the way to go.
Rear = 315 35 20
Front = 275 40 20
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Originally Posted by VAGfan
Conti DWS06 Plus is the way to go.
Rear = 315 35 20
Front = 275 40 20
Nice!

If OP switches to that size, they can also get the Michelins they want
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Originally Posted by VAGfan
Conti DWS06 Plus is the way to go.
Rear = 315 35 20
Front = 275 40 20
Do you have photos? While the 275/40 fit ok on the 9" front wheels, I had a similar 315/35 setup on another car and felt it was too much bulge, it may have been the specific tire.

I also felt the shorter 28.7" diameter looked small on the Macan, even with a mildly lowered suspension. I would have to lower another inch or so to get the right "wheel gap to tire sidewall" proportion.

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255/45/20 and 285/40/20 are also an option. You can see if other tires may be available in that alternate -1 size.

​​I am currently running summer tires in those sizes and I highly prefer the fitment and overall road feel of that size vs. stock. Those are OE diameters in a different wheel size, just slightly smaller overall diameter than the OE 20" sizes.

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Summary of alternative 20 inch tire sizes for the Macan:

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I'm running the Pirelli Scorpion Zero for similar reasons as you. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ndard%20Brakes
I'm very happy with these.
I cannot compare to the Conti DWS as the only experience I've had with those were pre-06 model on an Infiniti where I found the sidewalls had way too much flex but that is supposed to have been addressed on the 06.

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Originally Posted by VAGfan
Summary of alternative 20 inch tire sizes for the Macan:
The ALT size 3 should be 285/40 and not 285/45.

For ALT size 1, I wouldn't consider that a viable option considering how small the tire is, it wouldnt look right on an SUV. I would throw 245/45/20 and 275/40/20 in there instead. That was actually my favorite in terms of driving "feel" due to the lighter weight but they didn't do it for me in the looks department.

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If I size up to the alt size 2, how will that affect the life of the tire and the handling characteristics? I probably have 3k miles of tread life left after only 10k on the Macan. I currently run a set of A/T tires that are 10mm wider than stock on my '21 Land Rover Defender, and they work just fine. I assume sizing up 10mm in front and 20mm in the rear won't have any negative implications?

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by CincyRovers
If I size up to the alt size 2, how will that affect the life of the tire and the handling characteristics? I currently run a set of A/T tires that are 10mm wider than stock on my '21 Land Rover Defender, and they work just fine. I assume sizing up 10mm in front and 20mm in the rear won't have any negative implications?

Cheers!
I wouldn't recommend it for a few reasons.

1. Those sizes on 20x9 and 20x10 are at the limits of the recommended rim sizes. While I have run those sizes and I can't say the handling was poor, I would have a hard time justifying that they provide improved dynamics by adding more weight and movement on the rim.

2. You are adding extra weight that is not useable. Going up to a 315/35 in the rear can be justified if there are specific traction issues and the tire is paired with an 11"+ wide wheel that stretches that rubber and lays it on the pavement. 315/35 on a 10" wheel simply adds rubber that bulges and dosen't make full contact.

2. The smaller 28.7" diameter will lower the vehicle, which is good, but also increase your fender gap by that amount. I did it on my car (245 & 275) that is already lowered and wasn't entirely pleased with the look. This is more of a personal preference.

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When you find that the perfect tire has some Third World country name on it, stop right there. If you are in the middle of nowhere when you need a replacement, you are out of luck.
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I'm a big Michelin fan, but given the non-availability of Michelins in OE size, I went with Conti DWS06+ and have been happy with them.
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Originally Posted by Llarry
I'm a big Michelin fan, but given the non-availability of Michelins in OE size, I went with Conti DWS06+ and have been happy with them.
Do you track your car or do autocross? How has the winter performance been?


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