T3X4S

There has not been any spy photos of any upcoming Macan ICE refresh unlike previous refreshes for the 2022/2023 models. So, either no refresh in the future ICE for 2025, or Porsche is still deciding how to proceed.

chassis

Can't remember if this has already made the rounds on rennlist.



https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...ev-spy-photos/

TikiLou

RE ^^^^^

I can't say I'm a big fan of the looks of that car.

1. Looks like the clamshell hood is gone, and while there's no engine there, the way the lines are broken up looks more typical than special
2. Not sure if those are all headlights or some are fog lights, but it's looking a bit "Family Truckster" up front
3. Design-wise, the front "grille" area is fairly weak, without much in the way of a specific shape that says "this is a Porsche"
4. The wheel arch treatment is just bad
5. The sides of the body seem to taper in quite a bit before hitting the re-designed side blades, and as a result, the overall visual nature of the car seems much more "slab-sided" than the current Macan, which looks, visually, like it's wider at the bottom (a very German / Teutonic trait that seems to be missing from the new design)
6. The taillights still seem to be camo'd so I'm not going to comment on them
7. The tailgate spoiler doesn't look great deployed, and I think the profile of the car looks worse for not having the spoiler at the top of the rear window
8. I can't tell if that's a "camera hood" on the tailgate or if that's a camo item, but if that's a finished element, it looks like a poorly-integrated afterthought

#1SomeGuy

you do realize that this vehicle is still substantially camouflaged right?

TikiLou

Not according to the article which describes it as having "barely any camouflage" and if you've seen the camo pix of the car online for the past two years, it's easy to spot how much of this is not camo'd. Unless the whole front is fake. Looks like the only camo still on it is on the rear light bar and - maybe - a fake "power bulge" over the real hood.

All of the front camo and c-pillar camo that we've been seeing the last couple years is gone from the car in these pix.

dak911

What ever it is, It does not look like a Porsche NO LIKEY

Russian Mafia

I find the Taycan a nice implementation of Porsche + electric. But the photos above make that Macan look parts bin. I’d rather see Porsche come up with a completely new cosmetic concept while keeping key elements as they did with the Taycan. Let’s hope the production version and various colors lift the cosmetics.

DHL

They will market ICE and BEV together to see how many they sell (BEV). My bet is the ICE will outsell the BEV. People don't want BEVs. That is why dealers in the US are revolting wrt to an exclusively BEV lineup.

DHL

In other words, looks more like an X3 than a Porsche.

TikiLou

The X3 is better looking (by a wide margin) than this, IMO. Whereas I think the current Macan is much, much better looking than the X3.

#1SomeGuy

If you were around during the Taycan spy shots, the same thing happened...even the lightly camo pics versus when it was released, everyone said it was ugly but then on release it was actually great. Point is, there's still substantial camo going on with these latest spy shots...for sure those wheel arches and entire front end still have something going on.

DHL

Agreed. One of the reasons I traded in the X3 M40i for the Macan GTS.

DHL

I think its a mute point. If the BEV is less attractive than the ICE version, just another factor pushing people away from the BEV back to the ICE.

#1SomeGuy

moot*

I don't want a BEV either, but I still don't think it will be as ugly as the camo pics make it out to be.

TikiLou

I don't think the front of the Taycan is attractive. A personal car design pet peeve of mine are those goofy "running mascara" / "crying eyes" dark vertical lines at the outside of headlights or taillights. It's just a lousy design element...whether on the Camry, the prev gen Corvette or on the Taycan.

I also think the transition from the front quarter panel's simple geometry to the sculpted nature of the rest of the side profile is too abrupt and doesn't work. The more I look at it, the more it looks like somebody welded two different cars together just ahead of the front doors.

Eye of the beholder stuff I guess.

Anyway, I hope you're right about the EV Macan because this is not an attractive car as shown there.