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Old 09-12-2023, 03:27 PM
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Default 2025 Macan.. What will it be?

What is the latest word on the 25 Macans
I will be deciding what to do with our (22 Carmine S now 13,000 miles) when the info is available to order a 25, but only if it's an ICE
I no ICE I will buy out the 22...otherwise, trade it or sell it?
Do the dealers usually pay more than the lease buy out?
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Porsche has stated they will build the ICE Macan alongside the new EV model for at least a year or two. Considering 2024s are being delivered now and the EV has yet to be announced I'd say there is a 95%+ chance that the current ICE models will continue as a 2025. Probably closer to 100% odds since the Macan is their best seller and the current model is highly profitable I'm sure.

In terms of timing, you're probably looking at a late spring/early summer allocation next year to secure a 2025 model. I would expect the price to increase again as well because Porsche.
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I am also waiting to see what they do for 2025. I am certain there will be an ICE Macan and, hopefully, some tweaks, unlike 2024 when the only news was a price increase.
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Macan Turbo GT? w/PDK-S

One can dream.......
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Originally Posted by hilander444
I am also waiting to see what they do for 2025. I am certain there will be an ICE Macan and, hopefully, some tweaks, unlike 2024 when the only news was a price increase.
The only tweaks are likely another price increase and perhaps some options being included as standard. Otherwise development on the current Macan platform is done so don't expect anything new.
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Originally Posted by Vise
The only tweaks are likely another price increase and perhaps some options being included as standard. Otherwise development on the current Macan platform is done so don't expect anything new.
I don't expect any major updates, but one can hope for new colors, wheels, and perhaps a platinum edition.
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Originally Posted by ranger22
Macan Turbo GT? w/PDK-S

One can dream.......
I've been wondering the same thing. Last hurrah for the ICE Macan maybe?

Since the new Cayenne has been updated with a new interior based on the overall design language of the 911, it would be great if there's another refresh for the Macan while an ICE version is still available. Not only a TGT variant, but with that nice interior, a bigger screen with full-screen carplay, HUD, etc. (some have said there's no room for the HUD in the Macan, but the SQ5 has one and the Macan is only slightly smaller).

Probably all wishful thinking, but still...
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Originally Posted by TikiLou
I've been wondering the same thing. Last hurrah for the ICE Macan maybe?

Since the new Cayenne has been updated with a new interior based on the overall design language of the 911, it would be great if there's another refresh for the Macan while an ICE version is still available. Not only a TGT variant, but with that nice interior, a bigger screen with full-screen carplay, HUD, etc. (some have said there's no room for the HUD in the Macan, but the SQ5 has one and the Macan is only slightly smaller).

Probably all wishful thinking, but still...
I think the refresh order for the new interior/exterior themes will go 911 - Cayenne - Panamera - Cayman - Macan. Panamera and Cayman may both be in 2025, for sure on the Panamera 3rd gen comes out in 2025, not sure on the new Cayman release I think it's 2025 too (all electric there). With the 911 and Cayenne already having been released of course.

Porsche has already stated the electric and ICE Macan will be sold side by side for a bit. My guess is through 2028 but that's just a guess. Porsche would be dumb to delete their top seller and go all electric, as they don't fit many people's lifestyle yet w/ current infrastructure. But maybe they are going all-in and don't care.

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Macan will move to SSP BEV platform eventually. SSP is approx 2027 time frame and covers many VAG models from VW to Lambo.
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Macan will move to SSP BEV platform eventually. SSP is approx 2027 time frame and covers many VAG models from VW to Lambo.
For the un-initiated what are SSP and BEV...
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Scalable Systems Platform (SSP) is the VW designation for the next generation battery electric vehicle (BEV) platform. Today Macan is on the Medium Langbau (MLB) platform, Cayenne is on the MLB evo platform. The SSP platform is an electric vehicle architecture that supports a range of vehicle types and sizes. Google for more.

Electric vehicle architectures are rearranging the furniture with emphasis on battery, eAxles (front and rear drive units) and utilizing space freed up or consumed by the new electric propulsion components. No more gasoline tank, evap system (carbon canister), exhaust pipes or mufflers, engine, transmission, etc.

Battery integrity during a collision is a big deal so the battery is taking front and center in the structural design of electric-only platforms. Plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) need to compromise battery position and loss of luggage space over the rear axle, because the gasoline fuel tank and exhust systems are still in the car. PHEVs in many ways are the worst of all worlds, but are a stepping stone from pure combustion vehicles to pure BEVs.

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Originally Posted by chassis
Scalable Systems Platform (SSP) is the VW designation for the next generation battery electric vehicle (BEV) platform. Today Macan is on the Medium Langbau (MLB) platform, Cayenne is on the MLB evo platform. The SSP platform is an electric vehicle architecture that supports a range of vehicle types and sizes. Google for more.

Electric vehicle architectures are rearranging the furniture with emphasis on battery, eAxles (front and rear drive units) and utilizing space freed up or consumed by the new electric propulsion components. No more gasoline tank, evap system (carbon canister), exhaust pipes or mufflers, engine, transmission, etc.

Battery integrity during a collision is a big deal so the battery is taking front and center in the structural design of electric-only platforms. Plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) need to compromise battery position and loss of luggage space over the rear axle, because the gasoline fuel tank and exhust systems are still in the car. PHEVs in many ways are the worst of all worlds, but are a stepping stone from pure combustion vehicles to pure BEVs.
Thank you for that. I don't think I am the only one who needed it
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It appears that Porsche's US dealers are pushing back hard against Porsches move to an all electric Macan in the '25/'26 model years. One of the main reasons is the lack of charging infrastructure. This could lead to a significant sales decline for Porsche's best-selling model which currently represents about one third of Porsche's US sales. No word on Porsche's response to the dealers' concerns.
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Originally Posted by DBH
It appears that Porsche's US dealers are pushing back hard against Porsches move to an all electric Macan in the '25/'26 model years. One of the main reasons is the lack of charging infrastructure. This could lead to a significant sales decline for Porsche's best-selling model which currently represents about one third of Porsche's US sales. No word on Porsche's response to the dealers' concerns.
There actually was an article recently (last month or so) that said Porsche was reconsidering its plan to end Macan ICE production... to be clear they made it sound like Porsche will let the current ICE model ride a bit longer than originally planned and not that they would be launching a next gen ICE model though.
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