Macan S - Balance between comfort and sportieness
#16
Pro
I talked only about the positives but one big negative thing on the Macan S are the brakes. I have never had a car with such terrible brakes. I had read about the bad brakes in other posts but kind of ignore it until now. These brakes are indeed a safety concern, don't know if in emergency situation I can rely on them.
#17
I talked only about the positives but one big negative thing on the Macan S are the brakes. I have never had a car with such terrible brakes. I had read about the bad brakes in other posts but kind of ignore it until now. These brakes are indeed a safety concern, don't know if in emergency situation I can rely on them.
#18
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I talked only about the positives but one big negative thing on the Macan S are the brakes. I have never had a car with such terrible brakes. I had read about the bad brakes in other posts but kind of ignore it until now. These brakes are indeed a safety concern, don't know if in emergency situation I can rely on them.
#19
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I talked only about the positives but one big negative thing on the Macan S are the brakes. I have never had a car with such terrible brakes. I had read about the bad brakes in other posts but kind of ignore it until now. These brakes are indeed a safety concern, don't know if in emergency situation I can rely on them.
An expereince yesterday supports the viewpoint that the stopping power of my 2018 GTS is not good as my 2021 718 Spyder with PCCBs. I came up fast (yes, I discovered it does have some scoot to it) on a group of cars stopped at a light and I had to really put the brakes on. Of course it DID stop but there was a small WTF moment.
Yes, you're thinking, "you can't compare a Macan to a Spyder with PCCBs" and you are correct. The Spyder weights 3331 lbs, a whopping 1100 lbs less than a Macan GTS at 4000 lbs and the PCCBs are nothing short of AMAZING.
So in truth, I think the big-reds on the Macan are probably fine. I just need to adjust my bandit driving style from that of a small relatively light sports car with an epic braking system to that of a tall, heavier SUV with reasonably good brakes.
MY 2 cents.
P.s. I didn't ask her my my wife but without doubt she would agree.
Last edited by Zeus993; 07-16-2023 at 08:40 AM.
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Terry Adams (07-16-2023)
#20
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What were you driving before your Macan S? Have you come out of a 718 or 911 like myself?
An expereince yesterday supports the viewpoint that the stopping power of my 2018 GTS is not good as my 2021 718 Spyder with PCCBs. I came up fast (yes, I discovered it does have some scoot to it) on a group of cars stopped at a light and I had to really put the brakes on. Of course it DID stop but there was a small WTF moment.
Yes, you're thinking, "you can't compare a Macan to a Spyder with PCCBs" and you are correct. The Spyder weights 3331 lbs, a whopping 1100 lbs less than a Macan GTS at 4000 lbs and the PCCBs are nothing short of AMAZING.
So in truth, I think the big-reds on the Macan are probably fine. I just need to adjust my bandit driving style from that of a small relatively light sports car with an epic braking system to that of a tall, heavier SUV with reasonably good brakes.
MY 2 cents.
P.s. I didn't ask her my my wife but without doubt she would agree.
An expereince yesterday supports the viewpoint that the stopping power of my 2018 GTS is not good as my 2021 718 Spyder with PCCBs. I came up fast (yes, I discovered it does have some scoot to it) on a group of cars stopped at a light and I had to really put the brakes on. Of course it DID stop but there was a small WTF moment.
Yes, you're thinking, "you can't compare a Macan to a Spyder with PCCBs" and you are correct. The Spyder weights 3331 lbs, a whopping 1100 lbs less than a Macan GTS at 4000 lbs and the PCCBs are nothing short of AMAZING.
So in truth, I think the big-reds on the Macan are probably fine. I just need to adjust my bandit driving style from that of a small relatively light sports car with an epic braking system to that of a tall, heavier SUV with reasonably good brakes.
MY 2 cents.
P.s. I didn't ask her my my wife but without doubt she would agree.
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#21
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Yes I am coming from 981 Boxster(s) and bunch of other cars. Never had issues with the brakes but with this one I had already few of the WTF moments you are talking about. Car has just around 120 miles on but I dont think it is a break in issue, I think it is an issue with the brakes which are not sufficient enough for this car. I still love my Macan S and hope to get used to the brakes.
My GTS is now, what 5-6 years old and I wonder if the brake fluid has ever been flushed? Does anyone knowif there is a time on the maintenance schedule when this is done?
As a brand new car, your's should be fine.
#22
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Flush fluid every 2 years, regardless of mileage.
Yes, physics can't be fooled with 4400 lbs.
I have to mentally absorb this when I go from my 911TT PCCB to the Macan.
Yes, physics can't be fooled with 4400 lbs.
I have to mentally absorb this when I go from my 911TT PCCB to the Macan.
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#24
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Yes I am coming from 981 Boxster(s) and bunch of other cars. Never had issues with the brakes but with this one I had already few of the WTF moments you are talking about. Car has just around 120 miles on but I dont think it is a break in issue, I think it is an issue with the brakes which are not sufficient enough for this car. I still love my Macan S and hope to get used to the brakes.
#25
Couldn't agree more. Got my '23 Macan S a couple weeks ago, and feel very satisfied with it's performance. Got really lucky and found one with my top 3 option "must haves" (Sport Chrono, Air Suspension, Sport Exhaust... plus some nice to haves like Clear LED Taillights, Surround View, Wireless Charging, Heated Steering Wheel, and Colored Center Caps).
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#26
Just got a Macan GTS with the PCCB brakes (the WC coated rotors). Coming from a 991.2 Carrera S (2017). The Macan brakes a nothing short of amazing and performance is incredible for a 4000+ lb vehicle. Both my E39 BMW M5 (also 4000 lbs) and my X3 M40i did not stop nearly as well. On the street the Macan is almost as good as the 911, but on a track with good pavement probably not. Remember some of the impact is also the tires (PS summer for the 911 and PS AS for the Macan).
Only downside I can see with the PCCB brakes is the replacement rotors cost of nearly $8000 !!!! per pair. Hope they last as long or longer than the estimates of 50K mi.
Only downside I can see with the PCCB brakes is the replacement rotors cost of nearly $8000 !!!! per pair. Hope they last as long or longer than the estimates of 50K mi.
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#27
Just got a Macan GTS with the PCCB brakes (the WC coated rotors). Coming from a 991.2 Carrera S (2017). The Macan brakes a nothing short of amazing and performance is incredible for a 4000+ lb vehicle. Both my E39 BMW M5 (also 4000 lbs) and my X3 M40i did not stop nearly as well. On the street the Macan is almost as good as the 911, but on a track with good pavement probably not. Remember some of the impact is also the tires (PS summer for the 911 and PS AS for the Macan).
Only downside I can see with the PCCB brakes is the replacement rotors cost of nearly $8000 !!!! per pair. Hope they last as long or longer than the estimates of 50K mi.
Only downside I can see with the PCCB brakes is the replacement rotors cost of nearly $8000 !!!! per pair. Hope they last as long or longer than the estimates of 50K mi.
PSCB is available. Big difference from PCCBs.
#28
Three Wheelin'
My 2022 GTS came standard with "Porsche Surface Coated Brakes" (PSCB). I believe PCCB (ceramic) brakes may have been an option.
Big benefit of PSCB is lack of brake dust!!
Big benefit of PSCB is lack of brake dust!!
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#29
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After 120K miles PCCB on my 911TT, Macan sales guy said I could have PCCB, but might delay and don't waste my money. Been happy with PSCB so far.
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