Porsche Is Having Second Thoughts About Replacing Its Hottest Seller With An EV
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Porsche Is Having Second Thoughts About Replacing Its Hottest Seller With An EV
https://jalopnik.com/porsche-is-having-second-thoughts-about-replacing-its-h-1850594720
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07-02-2023, 09:12 PM
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I noticed BMW has the new 7 series in both electric and gas/hybrid. I don't see why a Macan cannot be produced the same if the sales are justified for both iterations.
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We have no interest in an electric Macan. Doing away with the gas powered Macan would be a mistake. The Taycan ST is the only electric Porsche that I am interested in and that would be years from now.
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They should. It's amazing how naïve European automakers appear to be about the total lack of infrastructure in the USA to support EVs. Outside of a niche market no one wants them in the USA. That will continue until we build widespread infrastructure. We need nuclear power plants and 3x as many charging stations as we currently have gas pumps. I said 5 years ago that if Porsche were smart they would be building ICE engine plants in the USA so they can keep building them when the EU no longer allows them to do so. I am not against EVs but by an large we are nowhere near ready for them in the USA. IMO another technology will come along to replace EVs before we build the infrastructure honestly that may be a reality. Meanwhile waiting lists and ADM for PHEVs is currently out of this world, to me PHEV makes much more sense in the USA for the forseeable future.
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I’ve always been in the mindset that Porsche should just offer the EV version of the Macan as a trim alongside ICE during this “transition” period. Then with the gen 2 of this redesign go all in.
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They should. It's amazing how naïve European automakers appear to be about the total lack of infrastructure in the USA to support EVs. Outside of a niche market no one wants them in the USA. That will continue until we build widespread infrastructure. We need nuclear power plants and 3x as many charging stations as we currently have gas pumps. I said 5 years ago that if Porsche were smart they would be building ICE engine plants in the USA so they can keep building them when the EU no longer allows them to do so. I am not against EVs but by an large we are nowhere near ready for them in the USA. IMO another technology will come along to replace EVs before we build the infrastructure honestly that may be a reality. Meanwhile waiting lists and ADM for PHEVs is currently out of this world, to me PHEV makes much more sense in the USA for the forseeable future.
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It is far more aggressive in Europe, that is true, but the US is not standing still.
Regardless, most driving situations do not require charging outside the home. That is, most trips are local and can easily be supported with at-home charging during nighttime hours. I agree that long trips (in excess of 300 miles) can be challenging, but how many times do you really do that? EVs make more sense for day-to-day driving and that is probably one reason people buy them.
Probably the biggest game-changer for EVs will be solid-state batteries, if/when that technology becomes available, as it will potentially double the energy density of the battery without the need for critical cooling systems.
Every paradigm change for Porsche has been historically met with skepticism and reluctance. This will gradually pass and the issues forgotten.
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In the US SUVs are preferred over cars. I would expect an Electric Macan to be very popular but agree, eliminating the ICE option will have some shoppers looking elsewhere. Taycan demand might be impacted too since the Macan is more practical. It’s a marketing experiment.
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They should. It's amazing how naïve European automakers appear to be about the total lack of infrastructure in the USA to support EVs. Outside of a niche market no one wants them in the USA. That will continue until we build widespread infrastructure. We need nuclear power plants and 3x as many charging stations as we currently have gas pumps. I said 5 years ago that if Porsche were smart they would be building ICE engine plants in the USA so they can keep building them when the EU no longer allows them to do so. I am not against EVs but by an large we are nowhere near ready for them in the USA. IMO another technology will come along to replace EVs before we build the infrastructure honestly that may be a reality. Meanwhile waiting lists and ADM for PHEVs is currently out of this world, to me PHEV makes much more sense in the USA for the forseeable future.
And not that I'm against EV tech as I live in the PNW where there is bountyful cheap hydro-electric power. The Taycan is a super cool ride. But for the rest of the continent? It makes no sense.
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hybrids are the worst of BOTh worlds. Poor EV performance, complication of gas+electric. Pick one. Or make both. No hybrids. Unless they put the 918 power plant in it.
Lot of FUD in this thread though.... but it's probably still too soon to do away with all gas as an option for the macan.
Lot of FUD in this thread though.... but it's probably still too soon to do away with all gas as an option for the macan.