nowata

I'm on the hunt for a different car. I usually relish the thought of this but it always ends up being a soul sucking experience. New cars just don't do it for me. They are cool but way too haptic and overpriced relative to what they deliver. And they should all have a devaluation counter on the dash next to the odometer. I drive a lot. To much for a nice car really. But then why have a nice car if you're only driving 12000 per year? Either way is oxymoronic.

If I can get past the "eh, he drives a pursh" in my very conservative line of sales work, this 2018 GTS would be the one. it was seriously better than i expected and i recently drove a new S which didn't do much for me. if i dont buy one, i might just concede and get an accord or malibu or some other conveyance with a heated steering wheel and reliable carplay connection.

i can't swing a new one. which usually means i shouldn't swing a used one. that said, what will likely cause me fits if i dump 30-40k per year on a used macan gts? I'd have no concern with an E46 with 50k + as long as the cooling system is cool. But this macan?

Snowytrail

Find a CPO one (unlimited miles) that has already had the brakes done and you should be good. Oh, and read the "Oil Leak" thread before you do anything.

nowata

15k miles non-certified better than 45k miles certified?

DrewM

Probably not, CPO warranty is 2 years/unlimited miles and you can extend it a year if you want, those 2-3 years will tell you if the car is reliable enough for you or not. Plus the 45k mile car should have had the 40k mile PDK service done already (it’s a tad spendy).

You made some affordability comments, if you are putting 30-40k miles a year on a vehicle, a Porsche is going to be a bit eye opening unless you have a good specialist to go to or are a diy’er. A dealer is going to charge $300-400 per oil change, the 40k PDK service is multiple thousands, etc.

Petza914

You need a warranty to cover a PDK Transmission failure should it occur. CPO will do this for you and give you a loaner if the car is out of service for a while while they wait on parts or a replacement trans. The info about the common issues is all here. They're great driving compact SUVs and for the most part very reliable, but they're also Porsches, so the labor rates and parts prices are expensive and why the CPO route, even if a little more expensive, is a great way to go on these, especially if driving a lot of miles as I think they don't have much of a mileage cap and are more time based.

Another option is to find one at CarMax and do the MaxCare warranty, which is excellent. When my brother bought his 997.2 from them, they covered $8,000 worth up fixes at the dealership the week after he bought it - tires, new taillights, etc

CarGuyNVA

As a previous long time respected member of this forum used to say, “The most expensive car you might ever own is an inexpensive used German car”.

Buy CPO or look at Toyota.

Wilder

It doesn't sound like a Macan is the right car for you, starting with fuel consumption. However, should you decide to proceed with your purchase, in my personal experience and observation, the Macan is a very reliable car that can be maintained for a reasonable cost ONLY IF you either do the service yourself or find a reliable indie specialist. Be advised that any fear mongering about $20k PDKs exploding and $15k oil leaks are blown out of proportion. Yes, there is a transfer case issue that is warrantied by Porsche for 7 years. Yes, there is a timing cover leak that Porsche dealers used to quote at $15k but indies can fix for one tenth of the cost; miraculously Porsche now claims to have a "new solution" that doesn't require engine out and is also much cheaper. And yes, some people do have issues with the PDK (mostly due to driver misuse) that dealers claim can't be fixed and quote the box replacement at $20k but indie specialists usually fix for $1-3k. Beyond that, it's a solid car. I bought my 2017 out of warranty and didn't bother to buy an extended warranty because I feel it would be a waste of money due to how reliable the Macan is. Hope this helps.

Tpup

I have an S that I purchased new back when they launched. It only has 35K but it was in the frozen north for 2 years and now lives in FL where it's parked outside. Other than the valve cover leak which was $1K at an independent, zero issues other than service bulletins (free) and regular maintenance which I do through an indie since the warranty expired.

The other option re: CPO is an aftermarket warranty I purchased a "car protection plan" from Fidelity through Steingold Volvo for my 17 911 on the recommendation from several people on this forum. I have not had to use it yet. It was $2.3K and I got it specifically for the high dollar risk associated with motor, PDK and the infotainment system.

Thanks
Roy

Quadcammer

lexus hybrid man.

manifold danger

Yeah a Porsche is a bad idea for heavy mileage. New or used. Maintenance and depreciation is just too expensive to justify cruising along on a highway, not even really experiencing the best these cars have to offer. They're best suited for looking for opportunities to drive for the sake of driving, while also just making the daily commute or errand runs a bit more enjoyable. Not really a great fit for tedious mile accumulation unless you have money to burn.

sonorous

Whatever you get, make sure it has a cockpit and driving dynamics that are enjoyable to you. Life it too short to spend many hours driving in a miserable environment. I have a Macan GTS with 70k miles since new, no warranty, and it has been extremely dependable. I enjoy driving it everywhere. I like the cockpit, infotainment, and driving dynamics. It can hold it's own and be fun on a curvy mountain road, yet is really supple on a long highway drive due to the air suspension. YMMV

PSEE

What?!?

The PDK service is going to co$t multiple thousands? Where would that be?

Multiple thousands is so far off into the weeds they may as well be cannibis!!!


A Porsche dealership quoted me $750 for the 40K PDK service a few months ago, changing the smaller filter. I got that service completed at
an independent Porsche specialist for the same price and had the internal filter replaced as well.

DrewM

For just the PDK service or for the full 40k service (40k is a 'Major Service'), I apologize as I meant for the full 40k service? And where are you located, the cost for dealer service varies greatly these days - a simple oil change in my 981 costs $400 around here (it will be a little cheaper for the Macan) - the dealer is charging $250'ish/hr for work.

Either way, if one were to drive 40k miles a year you are talking about 2 oil changes, a minor service (including oil change) and a major service (including oil change). Going to a good Indy would almost be needed to keep things reasonable cost wise.