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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 01:18 PM
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Annoyed that R&Ring the belly pan takes longer than the rest of the oil change process. I did some searching and there was some discussion of adding a Fumoto valve to the V6 motors but nothing for the four using the one time quarter turn plug. Anyone cut out a portion of the pan, leave it off or have any other suggestions?
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 02:06 PM
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Just use an extractor and remove the oil through the dipstick tube.
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dbf73
Annoyed that R&Ring the belly pan takes longer than the rest of the oil change process. I did some searching and there was some discussion of adding a Fumoto valve to the V6 motors but nothing for the four using the one time quarter turn plug. Anyone cut out a portion of the pan, leave it off or have any other suggestions?
The member here from Fairbanks AL did the cut-out. Siberian?
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 12:48 AM
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This is exactly what I will be doing. So happy that there is a dipstick tube and that the oil filter is on the top side as well!

Has anyone sourced the actual dipstick? I tried to look on the Porsche parts sites and they only offer the plug....I am sure there has to be a dipstick available for these
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 12:52 AM
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This is exactly what I will be doing. So happy that there is a dipstick tube and that the oil filter is on the top side as well!

Has anyone sourced the actual dipstick? I tried to look on the Porsche parts sites and they only offer the plug....I am sure there has to be a dipstick available for these
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 10:47 AM
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Anyone have a p/n?
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 11:59 AM
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For longitudinal applications (Macan, Audi A4, A5,Q5, A6) of the EA888 2.0T engine, there is no dipstick that was made for this engine. All these applications have the electronic oil level monitoring system.

For transverse applications (Golf, Jetta,Tiguan, Arteon, Q3, A3, TT) of the EA888 2.0T engine, there is a dipstick available (many of these models do not come with electronic oil level monitoring), but the markings need to be "adjusted" for use in a longitudinal engine application, due to the different shape of the oil pan. The longitudinal and transverse engines are identical, EXCEPT for the motor mounts, turbo ducting geometries, coolant pipe geometries, hoses, and the oil pan.

I use dipstick pn 06J 115 611L in my 2019 Macan Base 2.0T (my engine code is DLH), and the oil level readings correspond to the picture below, for the blue DPA/DMS range. Your engine code, sn, and production date can be found on the white rectangular decal on the front of the engine, on the black plastic upper timing cover.

And yes, the above picture indicates that this is an "E" dipstick, and I have an "L" dipstick, but the blue range seems correct, based on me refilling the engine with 4.2 litres (min) and 5.2 litres (max).
This picture came from another VAG enthusiast on the Audi forums, so I can't verify really what the difference is, if any, between an L and E dipstick.

Make sure you buy a genuine VW/Audi dipstick from a VW/Audi dealer, not a knock-off, as some of the knock-offs are not the correct length.

Also note that you can't keep the dipstick inserted when not in use, as the yellow handle hits the plastic engine cover.

If anyone buys a genuine E dipstick, I would like you to measure the dimensions so we can compare and see what the differences are.

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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 12:35 PM
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I have the V6, darn. I had an Audi S4 a few years ago and that V6 had a dipstick tube but didn't come with the dipstick, it was a simple matter of buying the dipstick and removing the cap/plug, was hoping that was the case here.
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 07:31 PM
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I did my first oil change on my 19S now that the warranty is up. Found it to be very simple even with having to remove the 15 or so torx screws from the lower protective shield. I did it with a regular wrench. Next time I will use a battery powered screwdriver to make it quicker. The oil did come out quite quickly so I think next time I will leave the oil cap on to help slow down the draining of the oil. All in all, a simple task. In time/effort I would rate our 08 Cayman as the easiest, followed by the 19 Macan, then the 14 911, followed by the 88 911 which is more involved due to draining out of two places.
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavegeno928
I did my first oil change on my 19S now that the warranty is up. Found it to be very simple even with having to remove the 15 or so torx screws from the lower protective shield. I did it with a regular wrench. Next time I will use a battery powered screwdriver to make it quicker. The oil did come out quite quickly so I think next time I will leave the oil cap on to help slow down the draining of the oil. All in all, a simple task. In time/effort I would rate our 08 Cayman as the easiest, followed by the 19 Macan, then the 14 911, followed by the 88 911 which is more involved due to draining out of two places.
Yes Dewalt torque driver with the appropriate Torx attachment makes it easy peasy.

You guys should see the front belly pan tray on my Panamera Turbo...it's the size of a 1960's Cadillac hood, it's comically massive, fortunately lightweight.
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 03:51 PM
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Another vote for the dipstick using oil extractor.
This option allows you to really do an oil change with HOT oil and a lot less chance of burning yourself.

20 minutes---done.
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Originally Posted by techman1
Another vote for the dipstick using oil extractor.
This option allows you to really do an oil change with HOT oil and a lot less chance of burning yourself.

20 minutes---done.
doh I have an extractor and never thought to use it
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Old Nov 6, 2022 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by techman1
Another vote for the dipstick using oil extractor.
This option allows you to really do an oil change with HOT oil and a lot less chance of burning yourself.

20 minutes---done.
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doh I have an extractor and never thought to use it
Is there a dipstick tube on the V6, or is this a 4-cyl only thing?

I know the dealerships generally use oil extractors whenever possible.
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Old Nov 7, 2022 | 09:57 AM
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The V6 has a dipstick tube, with a removavble cap.
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Old Nov 7, 2022 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by VAGfan
The V6 has a dipstick tube, with a removavble cap.
Not on the original V-6.
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