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Old 09-27-2021, 09:09 PM
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I really want to order a 2022 GTS but the $9k cost to replace the brakes is throwing me off.
Plan on keeping the car for 100k miles or so. So that’s at least 2 brake replacements I’m guessing.

Has anyone else had this dilemma?
Has anyone had these brakes replaced on a Macan at an Indy shop? How much did you pay?

spec’ing an S the way I want gets me to 90K...the GTS spec’d is only 95K.
Sucks for me that they made the PSCB standard.
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Or is it possible to replace the pscb with steel brakes when they need replacement?
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The PSCB are one of my favorite features on my GTS.

That being said, I don't see why you couldn't replace them with regular steel rotors and pads down the road if they need replacement.
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I think you're being too pessimistic at 2 replacements by 100K miles. That would be about the same as steel rotors.

I was going to order PCCB as an option on the Turbo, like I have on the 911, but the sales guy talked me out of it. Said the PSCB would be close in performance (wrong) but the math at 9 cents a mile for one replacement at 100K miles should work out. At some point you have to just forget the cost spreadsheet and go out and drive.

At 119K on PCCB I have done one pair pads replacement at 90K and rotors still "good for the life of the car" according to the latest measurement at major service. Would not surprise me if PSCB rotors went at least 100K.

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I don't know about the PCSB, but PCCBs would last you that 100k mile target and longer on the rotors. Maybe one pad replacement in that interval but the rotors will be fine. At 60k miles the PCCBs on my 997 still look like brand new as do the ones on my Cayenne at 48k miles.
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To the OP, are you certain the PSCB replacement cost is $9k? That sounds more like a PCCB cost to me?
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Originally Posted by CarGuyNVA
To the OP, are you certain the PSCB replacement cost is $9k? That sounds more like a PCCB cost to me?
Yes I had my dealer check with the Service Department.
PCCB replacement is over 20k.
PSCB only last 30% more than regular brakes according to Porsche.
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Originally Posted by BM555
Yes I had my dealer check with the Service Department.
PCCB replacement is over 20k.
PSCB only last 30% more than regular brakes according to Porsche.
Get the PCCBs or go with the Steel. The PCSBs are also known to have noise issues and I also worry about the dissimilar materials delaminating since the ceramic is only a layer bonded to the rotor whereas PCCBs are solid ceramic rotors - no dissimilar materials. We all know how well bonded coolant pipes worked out for Porsche in the Cayennes and Mezger 911 engines.
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My dealer just confirmed come replacement…I can just replace with regular rotors and pads.
So that’s good!!
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Get the PCCBs or go with the Steel. The PCSBs are also known to have noise issues and I also worry about the dissimilar materials delaminating since the ceramic is only a layer bonded to the rotor whereas PCCBs are solid ceramic rotors - no dissimilar materials. We all know how well bonded coolant pipes worked out for Porsche in the Cayennes and Mezger 911 engines.
Not sure what country the OP is in, but I believe the PCCB option for USA Macans has been discontinued for the ‘22 model year.
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Aftermarket tungsten carbide coated rotors direct from Brembo are on their way so there may not be a need to purchase Porsche packaged and marked-up rotors. https://www.carthrottle.com/post/bre...mirror-finish/
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And they definitely don't do well in very cold temps. Also the fact that, IIRC, CLs are required on PCCBs removed that from any consideration (on my 992)

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Originally Posted by CarGuyNVA
Not sure what country the OP is in, but I believe the PCCB option for USA Macans has been discontinued for the ‘22 model year.
Oh my! More poor decisions from modern Porsche.
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Originally Posted by BM555
My dealer just confirmed come replacement…I can just replace with regular rotors and pads.
So that’s good!!
Hey, did the dealer say how to replace with regular rotors and pads? I'm in the same situation as you. My dealer told me to replace them with regular rotors and pads will cost more than just getting PSCBs, because it has to be a conversion kit with new wheel hubs and stuff, and then they raise an issue with warranty voiding if I do that.
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Originally Posted by chalbecca
Hey, did the dealer say how to replace with regular rotors and pads? I'm in the same situation as you. My dealer told me to replace them with regular rotors and pads will cost more than just getting PSCBs, because it has to be a conversion kit with new wheel hubs and stuff, and then they raise an issue with warranty voiding if I do that.
You have to get new wheel hubs to replace brake rotors? There are no non-PSCB rotors the same size? That seems odd to me...
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