chalbecca

That is VERY odd to me. I think they don't know themselves what to do there.

beaverlake

I just posted this on another new and similar thread where the OP ended up ordering a 2022 GTS with the PSCBs:

Good decision. We’ve put almost 6k miles on our turbo since mid August - much of that being spirited driving. The brakes have performed flawlessly and virtually zero dust. That doesn’t address longevity, but we’ve had none of the issues raised by others (noise, grabbiness, soft pedal, etc.). If Porsche continues to offer them I think we’re good. If they don’t (for whatever reason) I suspect that will create an aftermarket solution (love capitalism). I had some anxiety early in the purchase process, but now I just plan to drive (and drive, and drive). I fully expect to hit 100k miles in three years, so time will tell. Enjoy the drive!

Need4Speedster

PCCBs will easily last for 100K miles without replacement, and the pads will be close. This assumes non track activity - which is not the end of he world either - there is so much disinformation about longevity of ceramics (based upon old wives).

Now if you track, and are overly dependent (overuse) upon brakes they won't get you to 100K. But, take it as gospel that those who have early problems with ceramics on the track are overusing the brakes to compensate for skill. That said, while better than steel, they won't last for ever either. But the economics (man math) are in their favor.

Bottom line, don't worry about wearing out ceramics for street use.....find somehow else to worry about.

Noah Fect

Huge, huge marketing fail by Porsche to give these brakes acronyms like "PSCB" and "PCCB." There are no ceramic components in the brakes available for the 2022+ Macan[1]. The PSCBs on the GTS use iron rotors with a thin layer of tungsten carbide instead of the full-fledged carbon ceramic discs used by the PCCBs.

Everybody is getting this wrong. They are not the same brakes, not even close. Both are crazy stupid overkill for street-driven SUVs... but I guess that's why we're here.

1: At least in the US market.

beaverlake

Noah

1. No choice (2021 turbo)
2 No dust (for all practical purposes)
3. No worries (we have 55k miles on our 2014 C4S and still have a lot of iron brake left - and we drive that car as a sports car should be driven)

I expect one brake job during our ownership which we expect to be 150k+ miles and 7-9 years. As noted, time will tell but while not inexpensive, for us it’s not the end of the world either.

jaredsnyc

Hi - apologies for reviving an old thread - how are your PSCBs doing now? Could you provide us with an update? Would be much appreciated (fellow PSCB owner)!

Nickshu

Per Porsche PSCBs should last 30% longer than iron rotors. Some internet/Youtubers have stated PSCBs should last around 90K miles, but I have never heard Porsche say an actual number other than "30% longer".

To me the near zero brake dust is worth whatever the cost is. Porsche's stock pads dust like crazy, your wheels only look clean right after you wash them...5 miles later, covered in brake dust. Yes you can go w/ Hawk ceramic pads to reduce this alot if you wanted, that is probably cheaper than PSCBs.

Our 2022 GTS has 23K miles on it already and the PSCB brakes look new, pads show almost no wear. Mixed city/highway w/ maybe a bit more highway b/c the car has been on a few road trips since we got it new.

DHL

I believe the brake perormance is much better with the PCSBs over standard iron rotors. If replacement cost is an issue (I think they are now about $6.5K/pair), you can get the "term" consumables extended warranty from Porsche that covers pads and rotors (with the optional rotors coverage). I think the cost is well below the price of replacement PCSB rotors. I was quoted about $3800 for 6 years/72K mi, which includes one free set of brake pads (and a whole bunch of other stuff such as belts etc). Perhaps in the near future the aftermarket will come up with a tungsten carbide alternative.

jaredsnyc

That's good to hear. Yes, it's quite nice that they do not cover our wheels in brake dust! Hopefully they last a long time too!

ddsRepTarga4S

So i recently replaced my pscb pads after 27k miles., i ll post a pic later of the meat left on my pads, i saved them just in case.

I pad about $350 on porsche delaware parts website..

Nickshu

So they only lasted 27K miles or you replaced the pads for some other reason? Our 2022 GTS now has 26K on it and the pads look new as far as wear.

Larry Cable

• Porsche Surface Coated Brakes
• Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes

Larson E. Rapp

And?

Larry Cable

What?

Larry Cable

my point being that the acronyms are clear, one IS Ceramic the other IS NOT.

and ... dont be an arsehole...