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Old Feb 21, 2020 | 01:46 PM
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Hi all. I'm new to these forums, so please excuse my error if I've posted this in the wrong area. I'm curious to know if there is a discussion thread where folks can compare or evaluate lease rates, MFs, and other aspects of lease offers for Macans.

Thanks in advance!
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 01:33 PM
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There have been threads in this forum related to leasing a Macan. My understanding is the basic advice is - don't.

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Try using the search function - theres a few threads out there and the general consensus is lease rates for Porsches are horrible unless you use the car for business and can write it off.

When I was looking to buy my macan I briefly spoke to my SA and said I might lease it - he rolled his eyes and did the math for - leasing any Porsche doesn’t make sense financially for me.

https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...al-and-mf.html
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 03:57 PM
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Try Edmunds.com first, or leasehackr.com. You can ask about money factors if you join their forum.

Be prepared for Close to 6% interest rate (MF x 2400) in a 1.3% 3 yr Treasury rate environment. If they don't take a substantial chunk of sticker price to compensate for the high MF, don't do it.
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 11:31 PM
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Thanks! I found out that it is 0.0025 with 58% residual (Turbo). The MF is awful.

What do folks do when buying a Porsche like the Macan Turbo, and want to avoid the terrible lease interest rates? Finance?
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Old Feb 22, 2020 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverBass
Thanks! I found out that it is 0.0025 with 58% residual (Turbo). The MF is awful.

What do folks do when buying a Porsche like the Macan Turbo, and want to avoid the terrible lease interest rates? Finance?
I use the dealer provided financing assuming the interest rate is good. The advantage to using the dealer financing is you can negotiate a slightly better price on the car because the dealer is getting a commission from the lender.

I see quite a few guys credit unions specifically Pen Fed.
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 12:06 AM
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Penfed is great and they have something called Payment Saver, which provides a pmt closer to lease rates but you own the car. Of course there's a balloon pmt at the end, which you can pay off or refinance.
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverBass
Thanks! I found out that it is 0.0025 with 58% residual (Turbo). The MF is awful.

What do folks do when buying a Porsche like the Macan Turbo, and want to avoid the terrible lease interest rates? Finance?
Buy a Maserati Levante GTS or Trofeo at an interest rate close to 0%...
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Originally Posted by SilverBass
What do folks do when buying a Porsche like the Macan Turbo, and want to avoid the terrible lease interest rates? Finance?
Cash, sugar daddy, sugar mommy, the possibilities are virtually endless.
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 11:10 AM
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If you're looking for lease value, you might consider the X3M.

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showp...&postcount=552
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I suspect you're coming from BMW ???

Porsche money factors are very high, residuals not horrible but the capitalized amounts are capped.

They lease horribly. Pay cash. Unless you have a business reason to lease.

There is a reason porsche is the most profitable car company. Luckily their product is very good too.
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Old Feb 23, 2020 | 08:56 PM
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I only have "Turbo" numbers (no S or Base) from my dealer (confirmed by Edmunds).
Porsche Financial lease #'s for February only:
2020 Macan Turbo
Residual (36 month)
10k - 58%
12k - 57%
15k - 55%

Base MF
.00250 (6%)

Residuals are relatively par for the category, however the MF is abysmal...
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Old Feb 24, 2020 | 02:00 AM
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Thanks for the super-helpful info. Agree -leasing looks bad.

For anyone else - here's some additional info for anyone researching.

MRM: $101900
MF for one-pay lease: 0.00205
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Old Feb 24, 2020 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverBass
Thanks for the super-helpful info. Agree -leasing looks bad.

For anyone else - here's some additional info for anyone researching.

MRM: $101900
MF for one-pay lease: 0.00205
Yep, Porsche's MFs are terrible.

Also, never, ever, ever do a single pay lease.
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Originally Posted by br911
Try Edmunds.com first, or leasehackr.com. You can ask about money factors if you join their forum.

Be prepared for Close to 6% interest rate (MF x 2400) in a 1.3% 3 yr Treasury rate environment. If they don't take a substantial chunk of sticker price to compensate for the high MF, don't do it.
Sorry, in a world with 3 yr Treasury rates at 0.9%.

Just got a call from a dealer that wanted to charge me ADM on a new car 1 month ago - I walked away - asking I am still interested at sticker.

What a difference a few days makes...
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