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I hear you but it's the only way since they refuse to add this as a factory option. The potential danger of having a key in the car?
"They" would have to know you have a remote start and, in the best of circumstances, "they'd" have to have a receiver to catch your ten trillion rolling codes you're sending to the car and in the worst of cases, know you have a remote start, smash your window, know exactly where you stashed your key and make off with your car whilst it's 40 below... unless I'm missing something from your concern
But would be really useful where I live
siberian
The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow
I hear you but it's the only way since they refuse to add this as a factory option. The potential danger of having a key in the car?
"They" would have to know you have a remote start and, in the best of circumstances, "they'd" have to have a receiver to catch your ten trillion rolling codes you're sending to the car and in the worst of cases, know you have a remote start, smash your window, know exactly where you stashed your key and make off with your car whilst it's 40 below... unless I'm missing something from your concern
But would be really useful where I live
siberian
The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow
The key is in the car, just turn the dummy and it will start. Easy to get in without breaking a window. Granted you'd have to be unlucky to have somebody pick your car. But if it happens it won't be fun to explain to insurance why there was a key in the car.
Oliver, since you (for now anyway) are not able to even get the heated seats and steering to be remembered, I think we may have better luck by playing with the x431 to see if we can get that to work.
ALL (foreign cars) remote starts now a days have their key in the car. If in doubt contact your insurance carrier. Anything less than 30 minutes and your have the REST function, beyond that a remote start is nice for where I live; for everything else...
siberian
The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow
Last edited by siberian; Feb 13, 2020 at 11:21 PM.
Good point Oliver, that would, if confirmed, ease (one of) Todd's concern about simply coming in and turning the key. Maybe send them a mail and ask. I'm also waiting to hear whether they confirm that it will work for a 2020 as on their site they point to 2019.
Here's another thought. Since you have to leave one of your FOBs in there (and if I understood this correctly) the first key (like the phone) it recognizes then becomes the de facto "key" or phone. If this holds true then you must "sacrifice" the primary driver's FOB to ensure those settings are set when the primary driver ingresses the vehicle and you would then have to use the door selection "2" to set it to the other driver. Thoughts?
siberian
The best long distance runners eat raw meat, run naked and sleep in the snow
It is definitely not true that all foreign cars need to sacrifice a key. Almost all Asian cars don’t, many euro cars don’t including BMW and Mercedes. All Porsche, and most Audi, and VW cars will lose a key though. And it is not a concern that the key is in the car because the battery is not in the key...meaning it does absolutely nothing unless the remote start tells it to. No one is just grabbing your door handle and driving away...even if they smash your window and climb in while it’s running remotely. The car will still need to recognize the other key to be able to drive off. If it doesn’t see the other key it will turn off as soon as the brake is pressed and will not restart until it sees another key. The only way the car can be stolen is if they disassemble the interior to find where the installer hid the key, which should be well hidden by a pro installer.
It is definitely not true that all foreign cars need to sacrifice a key. Almost all Asian cars don’t, many euro cars don’t including BMW and Mercedes. All Porsche, and most Audi, and VW cars will lose a key though. And it is not a concern that the key is in the car because the battery is not in the key...meaning it does absolutely nothing unless the remote start tells it to. No one is just grabbing your door handle and driving away...even if they smash your window and climb in while it’s running remotely. The car will still need to recognize the other key to be able to drive off. If it doesn’t see the other key it will turn off as soon as the brake is pressed and will not restart until it sees another key. The only way the car can be stolen is if they disassemble the interior to find where the installer hid the key, which should be well hidden by a pro installer.
thanks for the clarification about the key/battery, that makes sense.
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