A week with a base macan
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I'm in week 3 of this loaner... (my cayenne diesel had an engine out service, a gasket was seeping oil... common issue on the 2013...)
I'll say I do appreciate the driving dynamics overall. I definitely feel the 4cyl is under powered and laggy, passing at highway speeds requires really getting into the gas, sport button definitely helps with the gas/throttle mapping to make it better, The turn in feel is lazy, but it does corner really well and feels agile. And maybe the thing I actually dislike the most is the braking feel. There is just a lot of pedal action up top and bite is minimal. Wonder if this is just the car I have or consistent across Macans?
Also, for those of you with Base cars are you only getting low 20's around town mileage??? This thing gets worse mileage than my wife 300+ HP M235, less than my 5000 lb Cayenne diesel, and nearly as bad as my 400+ HP GT3!
I'll say I do appreciate the driving dynamics overall. I definitely feel the 4cyl is under powered and laggy, passing at highway speeds requires really getting into the gas, sport button definitely helps with the gas/throttle mapping to make it better, The turn in feel is lazy, but it does corner really well and feels agile. And maybe the thing I actually dislike the most is the braking feel. There is just a lot of pedal action up top and bite is minimal. Wonder if this is just the car I have or consistent across Macans?
Also, for those of you with Base cars are you only getting low 20's around town mileage??? This thing gets worse mileage than my wife 300+ HP M235, less than my 5000 lb Cayenne diesel, and nearly as bad as my 400+ HP GT3!
The brakes feel initially like they aren't going to stop it, but I think they're just adjusted not to offer 90% of bite with the first application of braking.
We've a 997 C4S and S3, which are both 'over-braked' by comparison so that doesn't help.
Around town the mileage sucks - I think that's always typical of the smallest motor in the heaviest car, but once she's rolling on the freeway I've seen averages of ~30mpgs.
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People choose the Base for it's economy, the initial $6300 or for greater MPG or both. The S, GTS and Turbo models are better cars, otherwise. Sounds like you want one of those.
I have other cars to challenge speed limits, so I liked the economy angle. Racing about in an SUV is not my thing, but I do have plenty of curves to negotiate where I live. Nevertheless, my first ticket in 20 years came in the Macan - I think I was going too slow to be concerned, and wasn't paying attention as I do in the other Porsches. The Trooper didn't think 80 in a 65 was slow, however.
I have other cars to challenge speed limits, so I liked the economy angle. Racing about in an SUV is not my thing, but I do have plenty of curves to negotiate where I live. Nevertheless, my first ticket in 20 years came in the Macan - I think I was going too slow to be concerned, and wasn't paying attention as I do in the other Porsches. The Trooper didn't think 80 in a 65 was slow, however.
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I'm a week into driving a base Macan loaner while my CGTS is in the shop. I have been very impressed with this Macan. I'd have no problem with one of these as a DD. Obviously I give up some power as compared to my CGTS, and lack of engine sound as compared to the rumble of V8 in my Cayenne is a factor, but the nimbleness and handling of this Macan is great. As with any Porsche I've ever driven, it's a lot of fun!
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Economy was a factor for me. I came from a Touareg TDI. I sure loved the S and GTS trims but I did not want to spring for the GTS. Close call between the Base and S for me so I got PP+ and 20s on my Base. Very happy.
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This weekend I got 29+ on a trip up into the foothills. I think it's getting around 25-26 in the city. I'm starting to throw it into turns a little harder. Years of diving SUV's has kind of limited my performance expectations. Haven't found that "limit" with the Macan. With all the talk about the steering I'm surprised no one has mentioned the available steering software upgrade. Anyone do it?
I think I'd describe it as quick and nimble. I've had faster cars, but this one handles the road so much better than the others. It feels stable at speed in all types of road conditions.
Took all the backseat headrests out, makes a big difference in vision, nice if there was a trim piece to fill in all the holes
I think I'd describe it as quick and nimble. I've had faster cars, but this one handles the road so much better than the others. It feels stable at speed in all types of road conditions.
Took all the backseat headrests out, makes a big difference in vision, nice if there was a trim piece to fill in all the holes
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I pushed the limits this morning in a cloverleaf freeway entrance. The limits are quite high. Not quite as high as my Spyder in the same stretch of road, but very impressive for an SUV. If I didn't need the cargo space of my Cayenne, I'd probably get one of these as my DD. It's really nice.
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I pushed the limits this morning in a cloverleaf freeway entrance. The limits are quite high. Not quite as high as my Spyder in the same stretch of road, but very impressive for an SUV. If I didn't need the cargo space of my Cayenne, I'd probably get one of these as my DD. It's really nice.
Can you get the back tires to break traction in a turn? Drift?
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No wonder I like this "Base Macan" so much. It's an S. LOL
The rear has model delete, and I assumed it was a base since that's how their Cayenne loaners always were. I looked at the paper work in the glovebox today and realized I'd been dealing with 340 hp, not 250.
The rear has model delete, and I assumed it was a base since that's how their Cayenne loaners always were. I looked at the paper work in the glovebox today and realized I'd been dealing with 340 hp, not 250.
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I guess Porsche owners become accustomed to the futility of looking for the engines in modern 911s and Boxsters. But open the hood of a Macan and it's right there! Checking out the elaborate routing of intake air is worth the trip alone, but it's also your duty as a proper car lover.
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I guess Porsche owners become accustomed to the futility of looking for the engines in modern 911s and Boxsters. But open the hood of a Macan and it's right there! Checking out the elaborate routing of intake air is worth the trip alone, but it's also your duty as a proper car lover.
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I guess Porsche owners become accustomed to the futility of looking for the engines in modern 911s and Boxsters. But open the hood of a Macan and it's right there! Checking out the elaborate routing of intake air is worth the trip alone, but it's also your duty as a proper car lover.
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I been driving the base loaner for the past day and it feels alright with one person in the vehicle. The rear seats are small like the Mercedes C class or BMW 3 series. Cargo space is deep but probably limited to the sloping rear roofline for extra storage. I can't warm to the electric steering. Feedback with resistance during turns is something I am not used to. Back to center is accentuated which is another weird feeling.
Just like all other 4 cyl cars, I expect performance to suffer greatly when you add cargo and passengers. There is no substitution for additional torque and hp. I imagine the S or TT is a nicer ride.
Tough to pay 60K for this car at the end of the day. I see about 5-10 of these cars on a daily basis. They are making so many of them that deals will be had at much better values soon I would imagine. Now, if they can fix the transfer case issue and put people's minds at ease..
Just like all other 4 cyl cars, I expect performance to suffer greatly when you add cargo and passengers. There is no substitution for additional torque and hp. I imagine the S or TT is a nicer ride.
Tough to pay 60K for this car at the end of the day. I see about 5-10 of these cars on a daily basis. They are making so many of them that deals will be had at much better values soon I would imagine. Now, if they can fix the transfer case issue and put people's minds at ease..
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I been driving the base loaner for the past day and it feels alright with one person in the vehicle. The rear seats are small like the Mercedes C class or BMW 3 series. Cargo space is deep but probably limited to the sloping rear roofline for extra storage. I can't warm to the electric steering. Feedback with resistance during turns is something I am not used to. Back to center is accentuated which is another weird feeling.
Just like all other 4 cyl cars, I expect performance to suffer greatly when you add cargo and passengers. There is no substitution for additional torque and hp. I imagine the S or TT is a nicer ride.
Tough to pay 60K for this car at the end of the day. I see about 5-10 of these cars on a daily basis. They are making so many of them that deals will be had at much better values soon I would imagine. Now, if they can fix the transfer case issue and put people's minds at ease..
Just like all other 4 cyl cars, I expect performance to suffer greatly when you add cargo and passengers. There is no substitution for additional torque and hp. I imagine the S or TT is a nicer ride.
Tough to pay 60K for this car at the end of the day. I see about 5-10 of these cars on a daily basis. They are making so many of them that deals will be had at much better values soon I would imagine. Now, if they can fix the transfer case issue and put people's minds at ease..
I was told by my local dealer that they have to replace all transfer cases with the upgraded version no matter how many miles if they plan to CPO them at the dealers cost. Supposedly the new case will resolve the issues but we will see.
That was part of reasoning for buying a new 18 vs a dealer inventory new 17. Apparently the 18's are receiving the fixed transfer case. Fingers crossed they aren't an issue as well. Just a little over a month and I should know for sure.
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^ Yeah the Bently SUV are around here as well. Those will be plentiful as well in a few years.
This transfer case apparently goes into all or most gasoline engine Macans, Cayennes and Pannys for the past 6 years. That is a lot of them to fix and resolve.
This transfer case apparently goes into all or most gasoline engine Macans, Cayennes and Pannys for the past 6 years. That is a lot of them to fix and resolve.