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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by thebishman
If the iX3 M comes in around $80K-$90K when it finally gets here, I personally will have a very hard time justifying the ‘Porsche tax’ on the Macan EV. YMMV
I'm in the same boat…

and hence the quote:

"Our business model, which has served us well for many decades, no longer works in its current form,” Blume said."
EV's have democratized performance - and once performance is no longer hidden/protected behind extreme mechanical complexity Porsche's performance is no longer a differentiating factor justifying their "tax"…

a more details analysis of what Porsche's business model "was" can be found here: https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...0/#post-507428 - but EV's have negated Porsche's advantages and their pricing is locked in based on ICE performance "tiers" - if they price their EV's competitively they will tank their ICE business (both sales and margins)…they are between rock & hard place…

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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jimnoyd
Great I like the range of the 4 over the 4S for my trips from San Diego to LA for games.
given the solild/reliable charging network in Southern california and access to the supercharger network I wouldn't let the range difference (less than 20 miles EPA in in practice inconsequential) keep me out of a higher performing EV…

range doesn't matter on a daily basis (normal daily driving is well/easily handled by home charing)
range doesn't matter if the charging infrastructure is reliable - and in california and with access to the supercharger network you'd have to to work pretty hard to get stranded in an EV over a 10-20 mile range short fall…

Example: right now my son is vacationing with his girl friend and 2022 Tesla Model Y in Palm Springs - he drove down saturday evening during some bad weather and range was a factor due to head winds - the car was running "short" of it's normal range - so he just pulled over for 7 min at a supercharger that was "short" of his normal planned stop - that gave him 10-15% and enough to make it to his planned dinner stop (and longer charge session) - turned out it would've stopped for even less time - but his passenger used the opportunity for a bathroom break and extended their charging stop beyond what was strickly necessary…2 years ago this would've been slightly more difficult but still a solvable problem - but today there are so many places to charge up/down hwy 101 that you can simply "pick a spot" and get some electrons…
personally I would not let minor range differences dictate what trim level I'd go with - weather, speed, tires, wheel size, average speed, and driving style can all overwhelm any EPA rated range difference…given the magnitude of the efficiency differences…I can "suck up" any additional range with one or two hard launches from a stop light…

but that's just me…

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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 10:36 AM
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OK, I have bridge, a very good bridge. Would you like to buy it. The number of Porsche you own is not relevant, what is relevant is the advice - its shockingly bad because it comes from a conflicted source. Buy a Tesla, Model Y Premium AWD or Performance - they are better because they have FSD which gives you the unassailable luxury of stress reduction and time to think about things that matter. Have owned over 20+ Porsche Sports Cars, currently own 5, inc RS, wife owns GTS, son owns Cayman, I also own 2 McLarens (& 720S and 600lt) and a Ferrari (296 GTB). I daily a model Y Juniper LR AWD with FSD and acceleration boost. I looked at the Macan 4S and thought it was a complete **** take at its price point (with the options I wanted), at least where I live. The cars I have owned and currently own aren't really material other than perhaps they reflect a long history with high performance cars, SUVs aren't high performance cars, get the right tool for the job and pay the right amount for it. A Porsche badge in the EV space is immaterial but engineering and tech as seen by efficiency, weight, FSD and infrastructure network are material. Go with the leader not the follower.

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1. I won't buy a Tesla because of Elon. That wouldn't have been the case a few years ago.

2. I'd never use FSD, don't trust it. I'll drive myself.

3. Macan EV drives likes a Porsche (high performance), is laid out like a Porsche, looks like a Porsche. I like that.

4. The Macan Turbo EV I'm getting is almost $30k below MSRP, so the value proposition is fine.
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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
1. I won't buy a Tesla because of Elon. That wouldn't have been the case a few years ago.

2. I'd never use FSD, don't trust it. I'll drive myself.

3. Macan EV drives likes a Porsche (high performance), is laid out like a Porsche, looks like a Porsche. I like that.

4. The Macan Turbo EV I'm getting is almost $30k below MSRP, so the value proposition is fine.
Originally Posted by groundhog
OK, I have bridge, a very good bridge. Would you like to buy it. The number of Porsche you own is not relevant, what is relevant is the advice - its shockingly bad because it comes from a conflicted source. Buy a Tesla, Model Y Premium AWD or Performance - they are better because they have FSD which gives you the unassailable luxury of stress reduction and time to think about things that matter. Have owned over 20+ Porsche Sports Cars, currently own 5, inc RS, wife owns GTS, son owns Cayman, I also own 2 McLarens (& 720S and 600lt) and a Ferrari (296 GTB). I daily a model Y Juniper LR AWD with FSD and acceleration boost. I looked at the Macan 4S and thought it was a complete **** take at its price point (with the options I wanted), at least where I live. The cars I have owned and currently own aren't really material other than perhaps they reflect a long history with high performance cars, SUVs aren't high performance cars, get the right tool for the job and pay the right amount for it. A Porsche badge in the EV space is immaterial but engineering and tech as seen by efficiency, weight, FSD and infrastructure network are material. Go with the leader not the follower.

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the current version Tesla Model 3/Y platform are a strong strong EV platform with many many desireable characteristics - I understand their appeal, have owned them personally, and family still owns them while I do not currently…

however they still lack some "options" beyond their EV'ness that I find desirable in a car…Porsche makes a better "car" - Tesla makes a better "EV" - for my personal daily use I value the car more than I value the EV…and the non-Tesla choices optimize for the better car…

I'm reminded how much I prefer my Macan everytime I drive my son's Model Y…

the best thing about this conversation is that we all have choices, vs. when Tesla was the _ONLY_ choice for a decent EV…what a difference a few years makes on both actual products and people' opinions about those products…

while it's a personal choice I'm more in camp "get a decent" car with a world class EV platform - Macan's EV platform is pretty solid (I like the HUD in my Macan and massage seats - both options do not exist for a Model Y just to name two)…oh and air suspension - gotta have me some air suspension.

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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
1. I won't buy a Tesla because of Elon. That wouldn't have been the case a few years ago.

2. I'd never use FSD, don't trust it. I'll drive myself.

3. Macan EV drives likes a Porsche (high performance), is laid out like a Porsche, looks like a Porsche. I like that.

4. The Macan Turbo EV I'm getting is almost $30k below MSRP, so the value proposition is fine.
this whole post avoids the real burning questions about this…
  • what color is the Turbo?
  • when are you taking delivery?
  • is there a window sticker we can all oggle?
I'm super excited this is being added to your fleet - daily choices about which car to take are a great great luxury!!!

I'm over the moon for anyone getting a new car!!! congrats congrats congrats!!!
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Originally Posted by daveo4porsche
this whole post avoids the real burning questions about this…
  • what color is the Turbo?
  • when are you taking delivery?
  • is there a window sticker we can all oggle?
I'm super excited this is being added to your fleet - daily choices about which car to take are a great great luxury!!!

I'm over the moon for anyone getting a new car!!! congrats congrats congrats!!!
All will be revealed soon. You might be more excited about it than I am!
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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by daveo4porsche
the BMW iX EV's, Volvo EX - good EV's, great tech, good range, fast charging and prices that are not simply ridiculous…

I'm very very sad as Porsche fan boy these days - their pricing is out of control, they are returning to past glory, and their EV's are excellent but can't not sustain the Porsche tax vs. the compeition…

the next car being replaced in my household is my 2021 Cayenne TurboS eHybrid my choices are looking like:
  • swallow the pill and overpay for the Cayenne EV - it's a solid product, but way way over priced (2028 Cayenne EV GTS is my target)
  • simply buy an extended warranty for the Cayenne Hybrid <--- cheapest option
  • probably buy one of the 'better" EV choices at a more reasonable price - making it the first non-Porsche purchase since 2020…
I continue to watch from the side lines looking for a path forward…stay tuned.
My wife wants her next car to be an EV as her ‘22 A6 will be out of warranty in July. We have had overall good luck with Audis (I think this is her 6th or 7th A6 since the early ‘90s) but I’m not sure I see any value vs price in the segment overall.
If you look at these things in the electric razor model, is a base Macan EV with some options worth more than 2 model Y AWD @ $48k each? Of course it’s nicer but…

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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 12:39 PM
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A Macan isn't reduced to being equal to a Tesla because it's an EV. A Macan EV is a Porsche, through and through. You get a Porsche because you want a Porsche. As far as the current prices in the US, some of that is due to tariffs, which are out of Porsche's control.
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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Keadog
My wife wants her next car to be an EV as her ‘22 A6 will be out of warranty in July. We have had overall good luck with Audis (I think this is her 6th or 7th A6 since the early ‘90s) but I’m not sure I see any value vs price in the segment overall.
If you look at these things in the electric razor model, is a base Macan EV with some options worth more than 2 model Y AWD @ $48k each? Of course it’s nicer but…
In answer to your Value question, perhaps not. But surely a $60K well optioned BMW iX3 later this year will be, especially with such incredibly efficient charging profile and range strongly expected to be at 400 miles EPA. Then again though, to many folks the price of the Macan EV IS worth the extra money; so more power to them!

As for Audi: I’m an ex etron owner and I loved that car. But Audi have completely lost the plot re: their current EVs. They’re overpriced; decontented and underperform, along with apparently still retaining crap software.
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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdCase
If you are seriously concerned about depreciation, practicality, and expenses, stay away from any new Porsche.

Not sure where you received that advice, but it doesn't seem much different than any new car.

Buy what you like and love to drive, other things in life will work out.
EVs depreciate at rates far greater than ICE counterparts. This is true of Porsche as well. In general I would say buy a car you want to drive for the next 10 years and don't worry about depreciation.
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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Keadog
My wife wants her next car to be an EV as her ‘22 A6 will be out of warranty in July. We have had overall good luck with Audis (I think this is her 6th or 7th A6 since the early ‘90s) but I’m not sure I see any value vs price in the segment overall.
If you look at these things in the electric razor model, is a base Macan EV with some options worth more than 2 model Y AWD @ $48k each? Of course it’s nicer but…
make sure to actually "drive" teh Model Y before pulling the trigger - I routinely get into my son's Model Y and drive it often

5 things I always notice:
  • much much much greater wind and road noise - it's really really not a quiet vehicle on the road for interior cabin noise
  • turning radius - not a circle, but even just 90 degree turns - pulling out of my drive way the car just doesn't turn as tight as any of my other Porsche's including the Cayenne
  • seat comfort - the seats offer less support, are narrrower - and shorter (the portion under your knee) - long periods of time in the seats are more fatiguing
  • ride quality - no airsuspensiomn option and the ride quality if more "bouncy" than even steel springs on other vehicle's
  • Tesla brakes are simply horrible horrible - nearly unsafe - but their low quality low effectiveness is masked by one-pedal driving so most TEsla owners don't know their brakes are actually terrible if you ever needed them
and those 4 items are even before we get into more subjective area such as handling, steering feel, etc…and direct issues such as missing features (dash board, HUD, sunroof that opens)

I'm not suggesting those 4 items (and others) are worth the Porsche tax - but they may be worth more on say a $70-80k BMW

porsche macan EV is not worth $120+k - but at $48k'ish the Model Y is a solid mid-ranged car and trends closer to being you get what you pay for - and there is a lot of concrete compromises - it's more 1990's honda quality than 2000's BMW quality…but for it's price point vs. competitive ICE options I'd take the Model Y over a lot of things…if I had to choose.
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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
1. I won't buy a Tesla because of Elon. That wouldn't have been the case a few years ago.

2. I'd never use FSD, don't trust it. I'll drive myself.

3. Macan EV drives likes a Porsche (high performance), is laid out like a Porsche, looks like a Porsche. I like that.

4. The Macan Turbo EV I'm getting is almost $30k below MSRP, so the value proposition is fine.

Then you shouldn't own a single Porsche - given Porsche history and the fact Ferdinand Porsche really was a genuine uniform wearing, slave labour employing ****; add to this he obtained a chunk of the company through Aryanization. Do you know what this means, it means he had a Jewish business partner who was forced to sell his whole share for some "nominal" sum.

Musk is entitled to his views as are you under the 1A. In my view Porsche history Vs Tesla history and by your own demanding metric you should buy the Tesla.

You can't do FSD in a Macan, the software is genuinely horrible as it is in the 992, you're really buying an Audi. Consider a R2. To be clear V14XXXX and HW4/AI4 is a true game changer. Why don't you "trust FSD" have you driven a V14 vehicle? and theres a reason why Porsche are doing fire sales. Did you know the Macan EV Turbo weighs 2400-2500 kg. Thats ~ 5,300 to 5,500 lbs where as a Y LR AWD/P weighs in at around 2,000 kg, almost 1/2 a metric tonne lighter.

The Macan EV was the first EV I genuinely considered buying, but having gone through the options list the price tag just blew out and as a reasonably skilled businessman I couldn't justify it (where I live most of the time - land of the luxury car tax). I had a look at a lot of EVs, the Polestar was a contender (turns out its a Geely) and then Tesla did a heavy face lift on the Model Y Juniper (no X or S here), adding frequency damped suspension, sound deadening glass, revised interior, 16 inch screen, lashings of alcantara and its very efficient (currently 14.7 kWh/100 km or a real world 520 km), even the sound system is good - certainly way better than anything I've had in a Porsche (never specced a Burmester system).

In my view look beyond the Porsche ecosystem even if you're wedded to it. I was heavily wedded to it, but found there was real choice if you're prepared to pay for it (Ferrari/McLaren) or even experiment a little (Tesla). Put it this way, I never thought I'd buy a Tesla and I did on the basis of the full picture e.g. supercharger network, software (FSD) and good real world performance (30MPH to 70MPH in 3.1s). Also, If you have Tesla Powerwall batteries the whole system integrates very well, in essence you get an Ecosystem rather than just an electric car.

Anyhow everyone is different and have their own specific needs but honestly if I want to enjoy corner speed I just use my RS, if I want to go to work in set and forget mode I just use my Tesla.

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Old Feb 18, 2026 | 11:27 PM
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Then you shouldn't own a single Porsche - given the Porsche history and the fact Ferdinand Porsche was a really SS officer and the fact he obtained a chunk of the company through Aryanization.

Musk is entitled to his views as you are under the 1A. In my view Porsche history Vs Tesla history by your own demanding metric you should buy the Tesla.

You can't do FSD in a Macan, the software is genuinely horrible as it is in the 992, you're really buying an Audi. Consider a R2.
The Porsche history goes back nearly a century, the Musk stuff is current affairs.

As I said, I don't want FSD, I want to drive myself. Looking for an SUV EV I enjoy driving, not just transport.
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In the past, one of the main draws of a Tesla was the Supercharger network.

Now, with the SC network open to all EVs (with proper adapters) and the proliferation of EV charging stations generally, that advantage is over.

But a Tesla if the $$ and the style appeal to you, as you would any other EV or car.
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Old Feb 19, 2026 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
The Porsche history goes back nearly a century, the Musk stuff is current affairs.

As I said, I don't want FSD, I want to drive myself. Looking for an SUV EV I enjoy driving, not just transport.
I totally agree and made a similar choice. I have a 2012 Model S performance but won't buy another Tesla. Also, I am a little off of the seeming typical Porsche buyer. I don't care about raw acceleration and top speed as I live in NE and don't do track days. I do appreciate handling though and the Macan blows away all Teslas in that area. It is a great car to drive on curvy, hilly roads.
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