since you’re ‘considering’ buying a Spyder, maybe research the 100k car you want to buy. The Spyder doesn’t have the same suspension as the GT cars and there have been no reported failures.

allow me to retort to your witty response... I fail to see where Porsche has even announced a 718 Spyder. Oh you mean the testing cars and development cars? Last time I checked, those aren’t for sale. So to date, no Spyders with GT suspensions have been sold.

No one said we shouldn’t discuss these failures. But people like you are making it sound like they’re just melting while they are sitting there.

And I’m here because this is the GT4 forum and I own a GT4. You’re here because you’re neither a GT4 owner or buying one. Oh, wait... I get the feeling you’re just like a lot of people on rennlist these days. ‘Oh I would totally buy this GT3 if it had illuminated sills’ Or ‘I would totally buy this GT4 if it was for sale last week’. I think I have a better chance of taking over Canada with a high school marching band behind me, playing ‘we willl rock you’, versus you buying a Spyder.

Amusing, but a little harsh... these issues do effect the way shoppers think about the cars though. I REALLY wanted a GT4, but I ended up buying a 997.2 GT3 in the last two months. The strut tower and 3rd gear issues were what swayed me. That said, I bet if I had bought a GT4 I really wouldn’t care about those items. It’s the funny difference between sitting on the sidelines and being in the game. For example: depreciation was a factor that I considered when shopping... I went with the 997 and it seems like the market has cooled almost 10k in the last few months. When I was on the sideline I would have found that type of swing offputting, but as someone who gets to own and drive one of these cars I really don’t care about the depreciation anymore. It would be nice if Porsche was more ahead of these types of things instead of being reactive, or accusing the owners of mistreatment. I’m a tier one suspension component supplier, and any failure of my components that would cause a front wheel to come lose from the car would be affectionately referred to as a “family killer” off the record. Consequently we don’t have ANY failures of that nature. If we did, even in small numbers, it would be a big deal. Wheels staying on cars needs to be a 6 sigma kind of thing; like airplane crash occurrences. It’s unacceptable for thre body tub to not be the most durable part of the car.

If i had one in my garage would it bother me? Probably not. I’d drive the wheels off the thing.......possibly pun intended.

Those are all issues that I can tackle in my own shop at an enjoyable pace as i choose to look at them. You missed one.. I put a harmonic balancer on it as soon as it came home to double down my chances of not having the cam actuator bolts back out. Alas, I am not skilled in body work, and I’m not interested in those types of problems. The 3rd gear problem is clearly just a nuisance item, but it would have been nice if Porsche hadn’t drug their feet for 3 years on the recall. It would have sent a clear message. When the ND Miata came out they had second gear problems, and Mazda made it very clear that they owned the problem and customers could bring race cars in for free gear boxes, even if the car was modified up to SCCA STR specs. I would say Porsche has done an “adequate” job on the third gear issue.

lol.. I should’ve used those

No way... those shock towers are made of glass!

Didn’t know that about the rears. I’ll have to look next time I have the car up.

You are in the auto business so doing fixes on your GT3 is easy, but to a lot of folks welding coolent pipes might as well be replacing a shock tower, Meaning it can’t be done at home by themselves.

And a comment about your previous post regarding safety of the wheel coming off. Can’t say I’ve heard of any GT4 driver losing control of their car after the shock failure. I’m sure it will happen in the future. But man, there sure are tons of posts about people crashing as direct result of the coolent pipes. Even worse, causing others to crash behind them...

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