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Old 02-02-2019, 02:04 PM
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I am waiting for the GT4 RS!!!!!
It will definitely come??
How long now that's the question? If there is no announcement six months after the release in Geneva, . I will take my current model to Sharkworks for mods.

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Old 02-02-2019, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free

I think so right about there too. I’m thinking $98k base price. 718 GTS is $80 and $82k. I doubt with the volume Porsche sold last time they will make the mistake of selling them that cheap again. X51 Powerkit is $10k alone.
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$92.000-$94,000 base is my guess.
So with a base price in rgw mid-to high $90k's, a decently equipped 718 GT4 will cost $110-$120k, plus DAM in many areas, at least the first year or two. By the time you pay tax and (for many the required) clear Xpel film, you are looking at used 991.1 GT3 territory. I also think it will bode well for current (981) GT4 value holding close to where they are now. It would be too big of a gap if they dropped much below ~$85k, at least for cars that aren't excessive high on miles.
Old 02-02-2019, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free

I think so right about there too. I’m thinking $98k base price. 718 GTS is $80 and $82k. I doubt with the volume Porsche sold last time they will make the mistake of selling them that cheap again. X51 Powerkit is $10k alone.
I bought my gts right around when pricing was announced on the first gt4. I was light on options and remember it was 87,600 sticker. Going with the same options on the current gts its $95,450 or $7,850.

If they follow similar bump in price over 5 years and next gen, thats about $8k more. Now, they could charge above that being that had something special in the gt4 or they charge more because they drop in an engine that's closure to the gt3 engine then the 3.8 sub 8k rpm engine.

Originally Posted by 997rs4.0
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-sh...pecs-and-info/

According to this article a 30´Brittish Pound increase in price. Seems like way to much?
Thats 40% more, if that holds over to the USD, thats a base price of $120k, only $10k short of the gt3. That would require the gt3 engine, detuned down to <450hp.

And oddly, this article has comments that are months old??

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Old 02-02-2019, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
As shown with the released CS the X51 would be too expensive; Porsche came up with a different solution. If Porsche does do a 4.0 NA in the new iteration there will not be a X51 kit with it. Also keep in mind that the X51 included PSE and other things, few of which are already std on the GT4.
true, forgot that the GTS comes with some of those bits. A 4.0l will cost Porsche roughly the same as a 3.8l, so cost can be saved there. Not sure if that will be passed on to the buyer though.

Originally Posted by GoKart Mozart
So with a base price in rgw mid-to high $90k's, a decently equipped 718 GT4 will cost $110-$120k, plus DAM in many areas, at least the first year or two. By the time you pay tax and (for many the required) clear Xpel film, you are looking at used 991.1 GT3 territory. I also think it will bode well for current (981) GT4 value holding close to where they are now. It would be too big of a gap if they dropped much below ~$85k, at least for cars that aren't excessive high on miles.
Spit balling here, but most 981 GT4 builds seem to be in the $95k realm. I expect that to be the same delta, MSRP + 10k or so optioned.

Originally Posted by mithiral67
I bought my gts right around when pricing was announced on the first gt4. I was light on options and remember it was 87,600 sticker. Going with the same options on the current gts its $95,450 or $7,850.

If they follow similar bump in price over 5 years and next gen, thats about $8k more. Now, they could charge above that being that had something special in the gt4 or they charge more because they drop in an engine that's closure to the gt3 engine then the 3.8 sub 8k rpm engine.
seems logical to go with an $8k increase in MSRP. The 992 C2S is also about $8k more then the 991 C2S... trend?
Old 02-02-2019, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
Spit balling here, but most 981 GT4 builds seem to be in the $95k realm. I expect that to be the same delta, MSRP + 10k or so optioned.

$95k seems a bit low, although I'm splitting hairs here. I had a hard time finding ones with MSRP's under $100k, maybe because I was looking for LWB's. Then again, more than 50% where ordered with them. FWIW, mine was $103k and does not have the PCCB's, which means any GT4 with LWB's and PCCB's was in the $110k range. So while $95k was certainly doable, I don't think it was most of them, or even the average.
Old 02-02-2019, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
A 4.0l will cost Porsche roughly the same as a 3.8l, so cost can be saved there. Not sure if that will be passed on to the buyer though.
You are talking PAG here with almost second to none profit margins on cars sold.





Originally Posted by Five12Free
Spit balling here, but most 981 GT4 builds seem to be in the $95k realm. I expect that to be the same delta, MSRP + 10k or so optioned.
There will always be a few who turn a GT into a luxury DD or C&C garage mobile.

Old 02-02-2019, 04:21 PM
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Options will cost more, pdk will not be free...base price im guessing 96-98ish. I see a pdk, bucket pccb car at 115ish, with leather and few options I bet we see a lot of 125-130 cars before PTS.
Old 02-02-2019, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nxfedlt1
Options will cost more, pdk will not be free...base price im guessing 96-98ish. I see a pdk, bucket pccb car at 115ish, with leather and few options I bet we see a lot of 125-130 cars before PTS.
I suspect that they will price it with a PDK as standard, and have a special zero-cost option for the standard transmission...
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Originally Posted by GoKart Mozart
$95k seems a bit low, although I'm splitting hairs here. I had a hard time finding ones with MSRP's under $100k, maybe because I was looking for LWB's. Then again, more than 50% where ordered with them. FWIW, mine was $103k and does not have the PCCB's, which means any GT4 with LWB's and PCCB's was in the $110k range. So while $95k was certainly doable, I don't think it was most of them, or even the average.
Agreed.
My GT4 was $112 MSRP and that included LWB's and PCCB's.
Nicely optioned, but I would say my car was pretty much "mid-level" when it came to options, compared to higher MSRP's that I've seen.
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Originally Posted by GoKart Mozart
$95k seems a bit low, although I'm splitting hairs here. I had a hard time finding ones with MSRP's under $100k, maybe because I was looking for LWB's. Then again, more than 50% where ordered with them. FWIW, mine was $103k and does not have the PCCB's, which means any GT4 with LWB's and PCCB's was in the $110k range. So while $95k was certainly doable, I don't think it was most of them, or even the average.
quite the opposite when I bought mine, I saw a lot of cars in the 95k range. Basically every car without PCCB or LWB and any car without PCCB and LWB were around 95k or lower. My car was 111k without PCCBs though lol
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Agreed.
My GT4 was $112 MSRP and that included LWB's and PCCB's.
Nicely optioned, but I would say my car was pretty much "mid-level" when it came to options, compared to higher MSRP's that I've seen.
Not sure I would classify being in the top 20% of $s spend mid level. Data from gmaki's database
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Originally Posted by ExMB
You are talking PAG here with almost second to none profit margins on cars sold.







There will always be a few who turn a GT into a luxury DD or C&C garage mobile.
PCCBs were 7k last time around? I bet they are more then 9k this time. Porsche is the only company where old tech gets more expensive with age...
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Originally Posted by ExMB
Not sure I would classify being in the top 20% of $s spend mid level. Data from gmaki's database
Definitely mid level for a California car
Old 02-02-2019, 07:27 PM
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Although cold, I trust this isn't 'old' news.


Rally and Porsche enthusiasts alike rejoiced when the German manufacturer announced it would be entering its 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport in the World Rally Championship’s R-GT class. That car has yet to be fabricated, but Porsche did kindly treat us to an early preview—in the form of a previous gen-718 GT4 mocked up as a development car—last week at an ice-racing competition in Zell am See, Austria. Spoiler alert: It looks and sounds spectacular.
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Not sure if anyone posted this already. The article was posted yesterday 2/2/19. Nothing really new in it, but they do suggest a 3.8l engine, which is contrary to what the Porsche source said recently

https://www.motor1.com/news/303662/p...man-gt4-rumor/


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