Archimedes

I didn't want to be Mr. Negative to the guy, but yeah, the GT4 is not simply a mid-engine GT3. Apple - orange.

MarkG123

Totally agree, I listed my low mileage GT4 with LWB's on RL. Just to experiment, I dropped the price below MSRP to see what would happen. NOTHING. In my experience RL is a great place for buyers, not sellers. Was surprised at the amount of stupid unfocused questions that the ad generates, i.e. Can you hear the radio while driving the car? Why did you select Guards Red? Do you like Guards Red?, Does your wife find the LWB seats comfortable.....

Buteo

Agreed. Those that think so need to go drive a GT3 and it will become quite apparent with a press on the pedal.

johnny2five

While I agree the manual GT3 will affect the GT4 market, I think the magnitude of impact is overblown. The .2 GT3 will likely be $160-180k with some options. IMO, that makes the GT4 quite the bargain (still).

Mike J

Hmmm. The engines are totally different - have you ever driven a GT3 of any kind? If you have, you would know what I talk about. Not even close. Also, the rear suspension on a GT4 is custom for that car, nothing in common with the GT3's. Brakes and front suspension, yes.

As far as pricing goes, we are now past the initial gotta-have it and market hype, and you can see more cars now coming on sale. I think the prices will slowly decline over the next few years as more cars enter the market, and over time the spread in prices will increase depending on usual factors, such as mileage and usage. The car will be keep most of its value for the next few years for sure.

Some of these cars have been driven hard and have a lot of track miles relative to their mileage, that can impact values. Tracking is hard on the car and does cause accelerated wear. I have heard arguments to the contrary, but I do not buy that for a second. I guess it depends on how honest the owners are to reveal this to the buyers. Its the same story in the GT3 world, I see a GT3 with a roll cage and track mate, I expect the price to be lower.

I also think when the warranties come off the cars ( less than 4 years now) the prices will drop more. If a new version of the GT4 comes out, more drop. It also depends on how some of the appearing issues on these cars pan out (3rd gear, towers, etc..) over time. If they are fixed promptly with little fanfare, no impacts, but if not handled right, again possible price impacts.

Cheers,

Mike

TraqGear

Yes, I'm thinking the same thing. He may very well get 5-10k over to the right person, but much easier on my end. And they are great guys as well..always treated me well. Thanks Bill!

mooty

glad you putting miles on and enjoying the GT4, very nice car indeed.

but GT4 is not a GT3 and will never be revered and worship like GT3/RS NEVER.

Jimmy-D

True

Buteo

I'm eyeing a 991.1 GT3 as a compliment to the gt4, but after the 991.2 comes out. Hopefully quite a few 911 guys will want the latest and greatest leaving some potential steals on the pdk equipped gt3s.

konaforever

It'll be worshipped more.

Alan C.

I want some of your drugs.

STALKER99

GT4 market in Canada is strong. Dealers are trying to set and corner the market. Cars are all over MSRP(dealer and private sales), especially LWB and lower mileage cars.

I think the GT4 market will remain strong because next gen GT4 is a way off still, and the car is much cheaper then a GT3 so it appeals to a large audience, plus it's simply a fantastic car.

johnny2five

It's all about perspective.

For the people with GT3/RS/Ferrarri/etc. money, the GT4 is just a cool toy.

But for the M2/3/4, C63, etc. crowd, the next step up is the $100 price range.
And for these people, what are your other options for a 2 door $100k sports car? How about a 2 door mid-engine sports car with manual and is NA?

Accel Junky

I 100% believe that the 991.2 GT3 is going to soften the GT4 market aggressively (and by extension the 997 GT3 market which will in turn conquer some additional GT4 owners). You can already see all of them dumped in anticipation. It'll just get worse. That being said, there is far too great of a floor below them with 981 base, S, GTS prices which are backed up by solid 987 prices. 944 prices are on the rise as well as other formerly "affordable" models. Bottom line is it is getting harder to get a cheap Porsche so I don't see that whole support system buckling enough to let the GT4 sink too far but I see 10-20% below MSRP happening no question.

TraqGear

I see the GT4 market soften a little in the future..no time soon. But, I don't think it will be much. The GT3 price delta is just too much to have guys ditching their GT4's and spending that much more for a GT car in a stick. However, I do think that the next gen GT4 will have an affect and the degree will depend on the new specs. I've had the RS and GT3 versions and the fun factor for the GT4 car is excellent, even compared to it's big brothers. If I were using my GT4 on the track and didn't have the race cars, no way I would sell it. It's a great car. Just my 2 pennies.