Used GT4 Prices
#166
#167
No idea about ultimate GT4 values, however Ynot, I can see GT3 values plummeting if their engine problems become wider spread after warranty expiration. No one wants a ticking time-bomb out of warranty. (Even though IMS and RMS problems allegedly plagued a very small percentage of cars, it is a known issue and does impact prices and desirability.) I wouldn't buy a 991 GT3, unless new and planned to sell prior to warranty expiration, at least until there is some longer-term reliability data; i.e., at least a few years after the bulk of these cars come out of warranty. In other words, I can see a scenario where GT4s become more valuable than same year GT3s, although entirely speculative.
#168
No idea about ultimate GT4 values, however Ynot, I can see GT3 values plummeting if their engine problems become wider spread after warranty expiration. No one wants a ticking time-bomb out of warranty. (Even though IMS and RMS problems allegedly plagued a very small percentage of cars, it is a known issue and does impact prices and desirability.) I wouldn't buy a 991 GT3, unless new and planned to sell prior to warranty expiration, at least until there is some longer-term reliability data; i.e., at least a few years after the bulk of these cars come out of warranty. In other words, I can see a scenario where GT4s become more valuable than same year GT3s, although entirely speculative.
#169
Nope, there is a massive thread on this. All GT3s and possibly the RS (assumed) have an oiling issue, it's just a matter of time. Porsche still does not have a solve that is proven. If you own a 991 GT3, it's just a matter of time before you either need a new motor or top end. For people in the know, the "value" of a GT3 just dropped a bit. I'm grossly oversimplifying this a bit, but the gist is Porsche stepped in it.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...laced-126.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...laced-126.html
#170
Nope, there is a massive thread on this. All GT3s and possibly the RS (assumed) have an oiling issue, it's just a matter of time. Porsche still does not have a solve that is proven. If you own a 991 GT3, it's just a matter of time before you either need a new motor or top end. For people in the know, the "value" of a GT3 just dropped a bit. I'm grossly oversimplifying this a bit, but the gist is Porsche stepped in it.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...laced-126.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...laced-126.html
#171
Originally Posted by Ynot
IIRC, only the 2014 GT3's had engine issues, they have all been recalled, engine has been swapped, warranty extended. 2015 and beyond doesn't have engine issues.
#172
I think it really depends on what Porsche puts out as a replacement in ~2 years.
If it is a TT 4cyl the GT buyers may not like it and the 2016 GT4 will become iconic
Personally, I think the GT4 deserves it - I have never felt so connected with a car right from the first drive and feel i could enjoy it for 10 yrs plus
If it is a TT 4cyl the GT buyers may not like it and the 2016 GT4 will become iconic
Personally, I think the GT4 deserves it - I have never felt so connected with a car right from the first drive and feel i could enjoy it for 10 yrs plus
#175
Why do I have a the feeling there are going to be a lot of irritated people, in a few years, that never drove their cars because they speculated... I never understood new car speculation, there are literally 100's of other ways to get a better ROI than speculating on car values.
Just drive it
Just drive it
#176
Why do I have a the feeling there are going to be a lot of irritated people, in a few years, that never drove their cars because they speculated... I never understood new car speculation, there are literally 100's of other ways to get a better ROI than speculating on car values.
Just drive it
Just drive it
Last edited by drwuss; 10-12-2016 at 02:45 AM. Reason: added content
#177
That car has quite a history given it only has 1800 miles on it! Hard to believe it was tracked more then once or twice given reasonable break in mileage. CPO gives you a lot of time & mileage coverage for any flaws from over revs etc. I'll bet you can get that car somewhere between 5 & 10K over.
#178
Why do I have a the feeling there are going to be a lot of irritated people, in a few years, that never drove their cars because they speculated... I never understood new car speculation, there are literally 100's of other ways to get a better ROI than speculating on car values.
Just drive it
Just drive it
Seriously, some people like collecting things, possessing them, more than using them. Who gives a ****? This "cars were meant to be driven" nonsense is just that, nonsense. Manufacturers are in the business of selling things. Customers buy them, for whatever reasons. I could give a damn if someone bought a new GT4 and tried to mount a snow plow on it. I'd rather see some middle-aged "speculator" have the car and properly maintain and care for it than some snot-nosed kid who was given one for graduating from Andover who drives the crap out of it. Different hot buttons, I suppose.
#180
Why do I have a the feeling there are going to be a lot of irritated people, in a few years, that never drove their cars because they speculated... I never understood new car speculation, there are literally 100's of other ways to get a better ROI than speculating on car values.
Just drive it
Just drive it