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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 08:41 PM
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I want to buy an oil pan with baffles for my GT4. FVD appears to have one, but it might not be able to accommodate all the sensors.

Any recommendations?

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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 08:48 PM
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Are you concerned about oil starvation? Just curious. I can't recall hearing of any problems with the 9A1 "integrated" (wet) sump.
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 09:13 PM
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I over-prep my track cars.
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by texasviany
I want to buy an oil pan with baffles for my GT4. FVD appears to have one, but it might not be able to accommodate all the sensors.

Any recommendations?

Thanks
I have no recommendations, but here's a link to a product you might be interested in. Looks like it uses the factory oil baffle though:

http://lnengineering.com/products/ot...1-engines.html
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by texasviany
I over-prep my track cars.
Got it.

Maybe give FVD a call. They helped with some questions when I bought their deep sump for my Boxster (M96).

I thought it was interesting that the Cayman R owners manual warned against using slicks as they could cause oil starvation although I haven't heard of any examples. I've only run NT-01s. The GT4 and also the dry sump GT3 circuit manuals warn slicks could cause potentially excessive load to the chassis/ body but don't mention oil starvation.
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Old Aug 9, 2016 | 12:39 AM
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Got it.

Maybe give FVD a call. They helped with some questions when I bought their deep sump for my Boxster (M96).

I thought it was interesting that the Cayman R owners manual warned against using slicks as they could cause oil starvation although I haven't heard of any examples. I've only run NT-01s. The GT4 and also the dry sump GT3 circuit manuals warn slicks could cause potentially excessive load to the chassis/ body but don't mention oil starvation.
I will play it safe....I over prepare and under-drive once I started to have to pay for my own race cars.
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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But they're not race cars.
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 06:26 PM
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But they're not race cars.
OK..."track cars"....same build theory. I build them up in either case. For example in my Viper TA, I added a triple pass radiator to keep the temps lower .

I am asking for technical help in the is thread, not an opinion on how I set up my cars
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 08:41 PM
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I seem to remember seeing a video of the 9A1 motor running while attached to a hydraulic arm which subjected the oiling system to extreme G forces. This testing was done by Porsche to make sure the new motor design would hold up under reasonable track work. And couldn't you run into warranty issues if you mod the oiling system and have an engine failure?

Just a FWIW
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I seem to remember seeing a video of the 9A1 motor running while attached to a hydraulic arm which subjected the oiling system to extreme G forces. This testing was done by Porsche to make sure the new motor design would hold up under reasonable track work. And couldn't you run into warranty issues if you mod the oiling system and have an engine failure?

Just a FWIW
No worries at all....I will not be changing the oil flow...I will be maintaining the flow on fast, long curves. I would be more worried about the warranty impact of a flash, headers and exhaust, which I don't do.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 01:24 AM
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To want a baffled oil pan for a dry-sump oiling system is to not understand
dry-sump oiling systems. The motor obtains its pressurized oil from an
upper reservoir, with a different pump than the sump pump. That reservoir
is essentially always full, and doesn't have any other job, no moving
parts like a crank in it. No matter what G-forces, the pickup is way at
the bottom and the main oiling pump is never out of oil. The pump in
the oil pan is just to return the small portion of oil that has just splashed or
dripped down there, to pump it back to the upper reservoir to keep that topped
off. As long as this secondary sump pump gets most of the oil most of the
time, all's fine and there is no problem with it having no oil to it for some
seconds. A baffled pan down there does nothing.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 08:29 AM
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GT4 is not a dry sump though. Porsche call it an "integrated" sump. 9A1 is better than M96/M97 but still not a true dry sump. The 9A1 in the GT3/RS is a dry sump and has a separate oil tank.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by zedcat
GT4 is not a dry sump though. Porsche call it an "integrated" sump. 9A1 is better than M96/M97 but still not a true dry sump. The 9A1 in the GT3/RS is a dry sump and has a separate oil tank.
Thank you for covering this

Now back to my original question.....
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 09:07 AM
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How about looking into the sump from a GT4 Clubsport? It is supposed to add an additional quart of capacity and is a Porsche part.
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Old Aug 11, 2016 | 09:24 AM
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It gets tiring doesn't it.

You say "I want an apple, does anyone know of any apples that are good?"

What you get in response is, "I know you asked about apples, but you don't really want an apple, you want a banana."
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