GT4 Database
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Burning Brakes
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"You see, there are only 12 prefixes in addition to the sequence in GT4 VIN #'s. That means I can choose any sequence and by searching it a maximum of 12 times (using a different prefix for each search) I can determine whether that VIN exists or not."
If you ever need a job with the NSA, I'm sure they'd like to have you! You can listen to all of our phone conversations.
My car is awaiting shipment in Germany. I was going to send my VIN to you when I received it, along with my spec. Would doing this so still be helpful, or does this eliminate the need? Similarly, does your count of North America cars include those recently produced?
Thanks for doing this.
If you ever need a job with the NSA, I'm sure they'd like to have you! You can listen to all of our phone conversations.
My car is awaiting shipment in Germany. I was going to send my VIN to you when I received it, along with my spec. Would doing this so still be helpful, or does this eliminate the need? Similarly, does your count of North America cars include those recently produced?
Thanks for doing this.
Very cool. So if I am understanding correctly does this basically replace the need for a certificate of authenticity if picking up a used car? I'm assuming this is a similar process that Porsche uses to actually create the COA since it doesn't really certify if a car's authentic, but rather is stating 'The car with this VIN was born in this color and with these factory options'
Am I off base here?
Also, as others have asked do you still want people to send you their VIN and specs as a validation exercise, or is this essentially redundant?
Am I off base here?
Also, as others have asked do you still want people to send you their VIN and specs as a validation exercise, or is this essentially redundant?
Also sending me ANY VIN saves me the work of "VIN discovery" which is the the 12 searches to uncover a previously unknown VIN. Of course now I only need the VIN itself. I don't need details any longer since I can look them up.
Burning Brakes
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The answer is yes, it is still helpful to send your VIN, first, because I do highlight the VIN's that belong to Rennlisters. Of course if you want to remain completely anonymous then you would not.
Also sending me ANY VIN saves me the work of "VIN discovery" which is the the 12 searches to uncover a previously unknown VIN. Of course now I only need the VIN itself. I don't need details any longer since I can look them up.
Also sending me ANY VIN saves me the work of "VIN discovery" which is the the 12 searches to uncover a previously unknown VIN. Of course now I only need the VIN itself. I don't need details any longer since I can look them up.
Drifting
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Just PMed my info as I got my VIN yesterday. It ends in 850, and I got an earlier allocation than originally planned because I gave up my November build slot to the person who had this one since that person wanted PTS but didn't have a build in an eligible window, and I had a PTS-eligible build but no interest in PTS, plus this way I don't have to pick up my car while there will potentially be snow on the ground!
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Burning Brakes
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Just PMed my info as I got my VIN yesterday. It ends in 850, and I got an earlier allocation than originally planned because I gave up my November build slot to the person who had this one since that person wanted PTS but didn't have a build in an eligible window, and I had a PTS-eligible build but no interest in PTS, plus this way I don't have to pick up my car while there will potentially be snow on the ground!
Of course now they may go even higher than 850. I'll have to check.
If 1,200 is the true NA total, that leaves 439 more GT4's to be produced.
Pro
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Wow, your VIN moves the high number by 25. Funny is I could not find a VIN over 825 only two days ago so this moves up the total production figure to at least 761.
Of course now they may go even higher than 850. I'll have to check.
If 1,200 is the true NA total, that leaves 439 more GT4's to be produced.
Of course now they may go even higher than 850. I'll have to check.
If 1,200 is the true NA total, that leaves 439 more GT4's to be produced.
BTW I am sure Porsche is keeping a close eye on you keeping a close eye on them. I would bet they have a small team to do nothing but read and review threads and I am sure yours has been flagged!
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Burning Brakes
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IMO 1,200 is solid prediction number. My dealer seems to think there is just not many allocations left for the GT4. At 439 or so that's right around 2 per dealer.
BTW I am sure Porsche is keeping a close eye on you keeping a close eye on them. I would bet they have a small team to do nothing but read and review threads and I am sure yours has been flagged!
BTW I am sure Porsche is keeping a close eye on you keeping a close eye on them. I would bet they have a small team to do nothing but read and review threads and I am sure yours has been flagged!
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Burning Brakes
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Alright this is probably the largest update to the database yet!
All thanks to bigkraig and his Python scripting skills.
He was able to extract the full build specs for 237 of the VIN's in my database. It took me some time to parse it out so that it fit in my database, plus Rennsport intervened in the middle. However as of today I was able to replace my hand input data with his automated lookup data. So for those 237 vehicles all missing information is now complete, and all mistakes have been corrected.
If you had been following the life of the database and the numbers driving the graphs you will notice ALL the numbers just got a lot larger. Which means the data percentages are a lot more accurate.
Now step one was simply to fill in and correct my existing fields. Step 2 will be slowly add information on other options.
Also I have bolded the ID# on all VIN lookup confirmed data. So if you see that it is bold you know the information came right from the Porsche database and not from my fat fingers or some dealership. Trust my I found some huge errors from dealer websites.
Anywway, more to come!
All thanks to bigkraig and his Python scripting skills.
He was able to extract the full build specs for 237 of the VIN's in my database. It took me some time to parse it out so that it fit in my database, plus Rennsport intervened in the middle. However as of today I was able to replace my hand input data with his automated lookup data. So for those 237 vehicles all missing information is now complete, and all mistakes have been corrected.
If you had been following the life of the database and the numbers driving the graphs you will notice ALL the numbers just got a lot larger. Which means the data percentages are a lot more accurate.
Now step one was simply to fill in and correct my existing fields. Step 2 will be slowly add information on other options.
Also I have bolded the ID# on all VIN lookup confirmed data. So if you see that it is bold you know the information came right from the Porsche database and not from my fat fingers or some dealership. Trust my I found some huge errors from dealer websites.
Anywway, more to come!
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Burning Brakes
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OK, I should explain a bit about the MSRP and ASK pricing. Don't read too much into this at this point as it is not organized this way for any good reason, but more because of the genesis of the registry.
The birth of the registry came from my initial, manual, search of every Porsche dealer in the US and Canada and included every single car they listed on their website, and any information they supplied. It was also supplemented by cars that started appearing on Auto Trader, Carsdotcom, and ebay.
They key thing to remember here is my pricing info came only from what was listed on any of those sites. And rarely was it stated whether the price was MSRP or ask. Therefore I just entered whatever price I could find into the column.
Now that the information can be looked up and a MSRP from the Porsche database can be located I created new column, called "MSRP" and that column is good solid data.
The ask is, for the reasons stated above very suspect and for the most part should be ignored. If I can't give it some real meaning I will probably just delete that column altogether soon.
The birth of the registry came from my initial, manual, search of every Porsche dealer in the US and Canada and included every single car they listed on their website, and any information they supplied. It was also supplemented by cars that started appearing on Auto Trader, Carsdotcom, and ebay.
They key thing to remember here is my pricing info came only from what was listed on any of those sites. And rarely was it stated whether the price was MSRP or ask. Therefore I just entered whatever price I could find into the column.
Now that the information can be looked up and a MSRP from the Porsche database can be located I created new column, called "MSRP" and that column is good solid data.
The ask is, for the reasons stated above very suspect and for the most part should be ignored. If I can't give it some real meaning I will probably just delete that column altogether soon.
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OK, I should explain a bit about the MSRP and ASK pricing. Don't read too much into this at this point as it is not organized this way for any good reason, but more because of the genesis of the registry.
The birth of the registry came from my initial, manual, search of every Porsche dealer in the US and Canada and included every single car they listed on their website, and any information they supplied. It was also supplemented by cars that started appearing on Auto Trader, Carsdotcom, and ebay.
They key thing to remember here is my pricing info came only from what was listed on any of those sites. And rarely was it stated whether the price was MSRP or ask. Therefore I just entered whatever price I could find into the column.
Now that the information can be looked up and a MSRP from the Porsche database can be located I created new column, called "MSRP" and that column is good solid data.
The ask is, for the reasons stated above very suspect and for the most part should be ignored. If I can't give it some real meaning I will probably just delete that column altogether soon.
The birth of the registry came from my initial, manual, search of every Porsche dealer in the US and Canada and included every single car they listed on their website, and any information they supplied. It was also supplemented by cars that started appearing on Auto Trader, Carsdotcom, and ebay.
They key thing to remember here is my pricing info came only from what was listed on any of those sites. And rarely was it stated whether the price was MSRP or ask. Therefore I just entered whatever price I could find into the column.
Now that the information can be looked up and a MSRP from the Porsche database can be located I created new column, called "MSRP" and that column is good solid data.
The ask is, for the reasons stated above very suspect and for the most part should be ignored. If I can't give it some real meaning I will probably just delete that column altogether soon.
. Also thanks for all the hard work. I love playing with data as well 
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Burning Brakes
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Burning Brakes
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From: Stevenson Ranch, CA
OK, I should explain a bit about the MSRP and ASK pricing. Don't read too much into this at this point as it is not organized this way for any good reason, but more because of the genesis of the registry.
The birth of the registry came from my initial, manual, search of every Porsche dealer in the US and Canada and included every single car they listed on their website, and any information they supplied. It was also supplemented by cars that started appearing on Auto Trader, Carsdotcom, and ebay.
They key thing to remember here is my pricing info came only from what was listed on any of those sites. And rarely was it stated whether the price was MSRP or ask. Therefore I just entered whatever price I could find into the column.
Now that the information can be looked up and a MSRP from the Porsche database can be located I created new column, called "MSRP" and that column is good solid data.
The ask is, for the reasons stated above very suspect and for the most part should be ignored. If I can't give it some real meaning I will probably just delete that column altogether soon.
The birth of the registry came from my initial, manual, search of every Porsche dealer in the US and Canada and included every single car they listed on their website, and any information they supplied. It was also supplemented by cars that started appearing on Auto Trader, Carsdotcom, and ebay.
They key thing to remember here is my pricing info came only from what was listed on any of those sites. And rarely was it stated whether the price was MSRP or ask. Therefore I just entered whatever price I could find into the column.
Now that the information can be looked up and a MSRP from the Porsche database can be located I created new column, called "MSRP" and that column is good solid data.
The ask is, for the reasons stated above very suspect and for the most part should be ignored. If I can't give it some real meaning I will probably just delete that column altogether soon.
See above ^^^
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