fire extinguisher?
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It is worth getting it installed at factory
I installed the factory fire extinguisher bracket into my 987 Cayman. What a PITA. I swore I'd get the factory to do it next time. I just need an allocation to go with the fire extinguisher!
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I ordered the fire extinguisher on my GT4. Had it on the GTS. It is very small and not at all in the way. Primarily an "accessory" only - does look good with the red bottle in the black interior. If there was actually a fire on the 981, it would likely be in the engine bay - which would make it nearly impossible to put it out with that small bottle. It may be most usable in assisting another car.
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It tucked away so nicely in my 7.2 gt3 that I forgot I had one. I picked up a plastic bag on the highway and it caught fire when it melted onto my exhaust and I pulled over immediately. I think I had the new car less than two weeks and I'm throwing handfuls of sand at my car fire on the side of I95.
It sure looked cool tho so I'll be getting this in the 4 and my dealer said they'd wrap it to match my yellow treatments. I've never modded a fire extinguisher before so this is new territory
It sure looked cool tho so I'll be getting this in the 4 and my dealer said they'd wrap it to match my yellow treatments. I've never modded a fire extinguisher before so this is new territory
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Drifting
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Ouch, that's quite a story number 9!
One more thing about the fire extinguisher. For my PCA region (NNJR), an extinguisher in the advanced run groups is required but it needs a metal mount. The stock mound is a plastic bin so you'll have to buy a 3rd party setup if you track with this region.
One more thing about the fire extinguisher. For my PCA region (NNJR), an extinguisher in the advanced run groups is required but it needs a metal mount. The stock mound is a plastic bin so you'll have to buy a 3rd party setup if you track with this region.
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Ouch, that's quite a story number 9!
One more thing about the fire extinguisher. For my PCA region (NNJR), an extinguisher in the advanced run groups is required but it needs a metal mount. The stock mound is a plastic bin so you'll have to buy a 3rd party setup if you track with this region.
One more thing about the fire extinguisher. For my PCA region (NNJR), an extinguisher in the advanced run groups is required but it needs a metal mount. The stock mound is a plastic bin so you'll have to buy a 3rd party setup if you track with this region.
The other thing that puzzle me is the distinction of different requirements for different run groups. I was at an event where a green student and the instructor experienced an off into dry grass. Yup, a fire ensued due to the hot exhaust and there was some damage to the bumper.
I'm sure your region has its reasons even if they don't make sense to me.
The other things I see, again in regions I participate in, is that everybody is told to stay in their cars during an incident. So, even if you see an off with a fire in front of you you are not permitted to get out with your extinguisher. Sure, you can violate that but how much does one of those small extinguishers even do?
Drifting
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That is an interesting statement. Most regions, that I participate with, have an exception that if its OEM Porsche its acceptable, in regards to extra event requirements.
The other thing that puzzle me is the distinction of different requirements for different run groups. I was at an event where a green student and the instructor experienced an off into dry grass. Yup, a fire ensued due to the hot exhaust and there was some damage to the bumper.
I'm sure your region has its reasons even if they don't make sense to me.
The other things I see, again in regions I participate in, is that everybody is told to stay in their cars during an incident. So, even if you see an off with a fire in front of you you are not permitted to get out with your extinguisher. Sure, you can violate that but how much does one of those small extinguishers even do?
The other thing that puzzle me is the distinction of different requirements for different run groups. I was at an event where a green student and the instructor experienced an off into dry grass. Yup, a fire ensued due to the hot exhaust and there was some damage to the bumper.
I'm sure your region has its reasons even if they don't make sense to me.
The other things I see, again in regions I participate in, is that everybody is told to stay in their cars during an incident. So, even if you see an off with a fire in front of you you are not permitted to get out with your extinguisher. Sure, you can violate that but how much does one of those small extinguishers even do?
As for always staying in the car even during an incident, every group I've run with adds, "...unless your car is on fire," so you would be able to get out of your car with your extinguisher and do whatever you could manage. Or were you talking about assisting some other car that you saw off track and on fire? In that case, even if you were willing to drive your car out there to help, chances are excellent that a grass fire would start under your own car after you stopped it to get out and help somebody else. And even if the other person were close enough to the track that you could leave your car on pavement rather than grass and get to them on foot in a reasonable amount of time, I question the wisdom of parking a car on track, even off-line in the middle of a straightaway with excellent visibility. I know that happens naturally when people have mechanical issues during a session or some joker runs out of fuel on track, but that idea still makes me cringe.
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I'm sure the reason for not requiring the extinguisher in the lowest run group is to allow people to get a taste of driving on a track without having to buy an extinguisher mount before they even know if they want to keep tracking -- but from a safety standpoint, you're right that novices aren't really at less risk for fires than advanced students.
Lets look at this example: green = lowest, red or black = highest. You being in a TX region will recognize these colors as you have to test to move up.
green
blue
blue (solo)
yellow
white
red/black
Where is the cutoff for a fire extinguisher requirement and why? Is it advanced or does it include intermediate as well?
Drifting
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I understand your point on first timers. But there are enough in lower groups. Then you have the intermediate group(ings) before you go to advanced. Also, not every first timer gets advanced out of their initial group, most do, but not all.
Lets look at this example: green = lowest, red or black = highest. You being in a TX region will recognize these colors as you have to test to move up.
green
blue
blue (solo)
yellow
white
red/black
Where is the cutoff for a fire extinguisher requirement and why? Is it advanced or does it include intermediate as well?
Lets look at this example: green = lowest, red or black = highest. You being in a TX region will recognize these colors as you have to test to move up.
green
blue
blue (solo)
yellow
white
red/black
Where is the cutoff for a fire extinguisher requirement and why? Is it advanced or does it include intermediate as well?
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Hmm, I thought that in the regions where the extinguisher requirement wasn't universal, it was only the lowest run group that was exempted. I suppose exempting only first-timers would be even better, but that would probably be trickier to track even if it would solve the issue of people who remain in Green for several events.
Last edited by ExMB; May 25, 2015 at 08:11 PM.
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And odd that it doesn't seem to be an option or accessory in Australia. I'm new to Porsche but can any of the Australians chime in with whether there's some secret handshake I don't know about.
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Does anybody know for sure where this will mount? The only one I've had from the factory was mounted under and in the front of the passenger seat. I saw a picture in another thread recently that had it on the passenger left side. Kind of right up against the console in the passenger footwell.
This is where the no cost storage net-thing goes, right? Does this get nixed if optioning the fire extinguisher and if mounted under the seat, how busy is all that going to be if it's not nixed?
This is where the no cost storage net-thing goes, right? Does this get nixed if optioning the fire extinguisher and if mounted under the seat, how busy is all that going to be if it's not nixed?