Mounting Schro 6 point harness in Cayman GT4
01-20-2018, 09:22 AM
#16
Rennlist Member
Not to derail the thread too much, but would you folks care to share why you choose the Scroth 6 point over the Scroth 4 point with ASM designed for the LWBs?
01-20-2018, 09:32 AM
#17
I’m not very familiar with harness setups. For those that are more street focused with only the occasional track event, wouldn’t Schroth’s 4 point harness designed for the GT3/GT4 be a good option? It’s seems like it would eliminate the need for the sub bar and be less invasive when you’re not using it.
01-20-2018, 09:41 AM
#18
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I’m not very familiar with harness setups. For those that are more street focused with only the occasional track event, wouldn’t Schroth’s 4 point harness designed for the GT3/GT4 be a good option? It’s seems like it would eliminate the need for the sub bar and be less invasive when you’re not using it.
https://www.schrothracing.com/produc...sche-harnesses
01-20-2018, 09:50 AM
#19
I plan on doing 6-7 events a year, so I might just go with the 4 point full time since it is approved for most track events and street use in the US. I’m sure it’s not as safe as a 6 point, but I hear the ASM works as advertised. But I would like to hear from some more experience folks.
https://www.schrothracing.com/produc...sche-harnesses
01-20-2018, 09:56 AM
#20
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01-20-2018, 10:40 AM
#21
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The Cantrell mount has a more substantial bar for mounting the straps and appears to be stiffer. The BBi is a piece of flat stock with a laser cut elongated slot and a small rod welded in for the strap. My concern is the cut edges coming into contact with the strap. Take a look at both.
01-20-2018, 11:38 AM
#22
Three Wheelin'
They also don't use the oem lap belt pretensioner in an accident or the airbags so...
01-20-2018, 11:46 AM
#23
Three Wheelin'
1. 4pts hadn't been released at the time
2. Many people are misinformed that schroth 4pts with ASM are dot approved and usable for most de events and okay for use with nonreclining shell seats without a rollbar and I hate having to explain that over and over again.
3. I'd feel safer using a hans with a rollbar and at that point might as well go 6pt
Last edited by ajw45; 01-20-2018 at 01:08 PM.
01-20-2018, 12:04 PM
#24
Three Wheelin'
The Cantrell mount has a more substantial bar for mounting the straps and appears to be stiffer. The BBi is a piece of flat stock with a laser cut elongated slot and a small rod welded in for the strap. My concern is the cut edges coming into contact with the strap. Take a look at both.
4 points are illegal at our track here in Colorado (high plains).
01-20-2018, 01:00 PM
#25
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I think 4pts with ASM are great, perfect for occasional de use. I went with 6pts and a bar because:
1. 4pts hasn't been released at the time
2. Many people are misinformed that 4pts are dot approved and usable for most de events and okay for use with nonreclining shell seats workout a rollbar and I hate having to explain that over and over again.
3. I'd feel safer using a hans with a rollbar and at that point might as well go 6pt
1. 4pts hasn't been released at the time
2. Many people are misinformed that 4pts are dot approved and usable for most de events and okay for use with nonreclining shell seats workout a rollbar and I hate having to explain that over and over again.
3. I'd feel safer using a hans with a rollbar and at that point might as well go 6pt
01-20-2018, 01:12 PM
#26
Three Wheelin'
It's a nuanced difference to be sure... Which is why I went 6pt. Navigating the difference between dot approved 4pt with ASM vs generic 4pt is a pita...
01-20-2018, 01:32 PM
#27
Three Wheelin'
Do you know if that's all 4pts? Do they allow the oem 3pt belts? Some of the confusion around 4pts is that standard old style 4pts are often not approved in many places however the schroth 4pts with ASM are really more like an oem 3pt. Since the schroth 4pts are dot approved (most other 4pts are not) they should be allowed to run anywhere oem 3pt belts are allowed....
It's a nuanced difference to be sure... Which is why I went 6pt. Navigating the difference between dot approved 4pt with ASM vs generic 4pt is a pita...
It's a nuanced difference to be sure... Which is why I went 6pt. Navigating the difference between dot approved 4pt with ASM vs generic 4pt is a pita...
I believe all 4 pts are not allowed, new as of Jan 2017(I think).
01-21-2018, 12:33 PM
#28
Make sure you get the gt3 belts, they'll have the proper end sewn in for the laps. They'll come with the 2 and 3 bar hardware to wrap the sub and shoulders, you'll remove the clip in hardware and set aside. Btw, I have this exact setup and makes a world of difference in track, don't forget a HANS (I use a SHR flex head and neck restraint).
01-22-2018, 08:15 PM
#29
I run 6 point on the driver side and 4 point on the passenger side. I'm an instructor and no ones rides with me unless they request it and I agree and I advise them of the 4 point. There's no slot in the passenger seat for a 6 point and I didn't want to cut up my LWBS. That said, I thinki 4 point is better than 3 point but it will not be compatible with HANS.
