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Old 05-04-2017, 10:34 AM
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As feared, Audi will have even more influence on Porsche. From my own experience owning both Audi's and Porsche's, this is not good. After 5 years, my Audi's always seemed to start having significant problems. And it often came down to some 90 cent electrical switch that I could buy at Radio Shack which was buried deep in the car.

Audi's are beautiful cars..on the surface. Below the skin, they use cheap plastic parts. The bean counters have to make their profits.
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Originally Posted by crossroads
As feared, Audi will have even more influence on Porsche. From my own experience owning both Audi's and Porsche's, this is not good. After 5 years, my Audi's always seemed to start having significant problems. And it often came down to some 90 cent electrical switch that I could buy at Radio Shack which was buried deep in the car.

Audi's are beautiful cars..on the surface. Below the skin, they use cheap plastic parts. The bean counters have to make their profits.
Ive had 6 Audis and theyve all been remarkable reliable. Didnt even replace a bulb in my last one over 130,000 kms in 4 years. Do you really think Audi uses anything different "below the skin" then any other auto maker? Try driving a BMW if you want electronic issues.
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Originally Posted by 911boy
Try driving a BMW if you want electronic issues.
Yup. And within 8 months of taking ownership, I needed a new transmission because it completely gave out on me one day.
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Lets not let this thread go down that road...every manufacturer has problems from time to time.
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Originally Posted by 911boy
Ive had 6 Audis and theyve all been remarkable reliable. Didnt even replace a bulb in my last one over 130,000 kms in 4 years. Do you really think Audi uses anything different "below the skin" then any other auto maker? Try driving a BMW if you want electronic issues.
Have to agree. My wife is on her 4th Audi all Cabs. A4 and A5's and I had a S5. Never had one problem with any. AND believe it or not my wife is harder on her cars and puts way more mileage on her cars than I do. and if she can't break them. We currently have a 2017 Q7 which is great.
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Audi's, it seems to me, are the "in" car these days.
Oh, I forgot,.... and Tesla's.
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Keep in mind their are economies of scale, shared development costs and intense economic pressure to manage through the diesel crisis. Honestly it's amazing they're not taking more drastic measures.

Also, as I'm personally learning the "right" Porsche may no longer be the next newest one. The right one might be an air-cooled one, or a tribute car - something completely different, as opposed to the traditional "best" which is assumed to be the latest release (not trying to start a debate on the later - more sharing a thought on the former).
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There's no question that Porsche are more reliable than Audi and BMW. There are studies on this, not just 1 person's comments. All cars have issues, but just do a little research and ask around your local mechanics - Germans vehicles are notoriously more problematic than their Japanese counterparts, but Porsche has long been known for higher reliablility than most German equivalents.
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Yet Porsche still won't take nearly $200,000 of my dollars for a GT3...
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Originally Posted by Guzzgreg
Have to agree. My wife is on her 4th Audi all Cabs. A4 and A5's and I had a S5. Never had one problem with any. .
That's hard to believe. I've generally enjoyed the multiple Audi's we've owned, but a few of them had their fair share of issues, most notably my wife's Q7, which I consider tossing a match into the gas tank of nearly every week.

That said, nothing compares to the Touareg we owned for absolute craptasticness. The worst car ever made outside of Russia. And the only thing worse than dealing with that thing was dealing with the awfulness that is the VW dealer network.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Yet Porsche still won't take nearly $200,000 of my dollars for a GT3...
That was the answer to what question?
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Originally Posted by crossroads
As feared, Audi will have even more influence on Porsche...
I don't fear it. I hope they help Porsche with a console. I want 2 drink holders and my parking brake lever back.
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Originally Posted by Gary JR
That was the answer to what question?
VW/Porsche cutting workforce ostensibly to save money when they have people lining up to buy cars they won't make available to them? Do you not see the irony in that?
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Originally Posted by RichAA
I don't fear it. I hope they help Porsche with a console. I want 2 drink holders and my parking brake lever back.
When was the last time you saw a parking brake lever in an Audi?
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
VW/Porsche cutting workforce ostensibly to save money when they have people lining up to buy cars they won't make available to them? Do you not see the irony in that?
I understand what you are saying now but not sure I get it - must be something different with GT3. I placed an order, was told to expect 5 months, got it in 5 month, /done.


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