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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Indy Rev
Great time last night. Im with you on T5. Im more stable dropping to 1st gear and bouncing the rev limiter, but Im losing too much time.
That's the way I was driving it originally, but I have had better success leaving it in second. It seems to me that the key there is being patient and not getting wheel spin. When I'm watching the splits, my lap is basically done if I lose traction coming out of that turn complex.. Then again my best lap to date is a 14.5, so I'm still more than a second off the pace.

My biggest concern is that I'm doubting my chances of stringing together a whole race without wadding up the car. Good thing I racing doesn't charge us to fix crash damage
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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I wonder if shortening 2nd gear would help. I tried changing the final gear, which made 2nd and 3rd really nice in the turns; but I had to lengthen 4th, 5th and 6th. And in the end I was still slower than most everyone else.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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If you hit the camber on some of the corners just right you can fly through...but if you miss, you'll fly through them.




My approach is:
T1 - hug the inside and ride out the camber. With a bit more patience its enough to get out full speed right at the track out.

T2 - I treat this as a double apex. At the top of the hill I'm right on the inside. As the car goes down it track out, but there is camber. If you're brave, you hammer it downhill and the car somehow sticks, and you make the second apex... its a little concrete patch.

T3 - I enter from the middle of the track, hug the apex a bit more than seems logical.

T4 - Gentle lift (50% throttle) only to settle the car down, no brakes, aim for the center of the track and try to keep it a bit toward the outside of T5A but not all the way to the edge.

T5A - I use the hill to slow me down, on the brakes all the way, even while pointing the car toward T5B. You want the nose glued to the ground as the car makes the hill crest.

T5B - Don't hit the curbs!

T5A-B I'm in 2nd gear with the mosport_fixed set. You can adjust the gears a bit to give you a shorter gear. In 1st you risk blowing the motor.

T6 - Pedal to the metal

Esses - Enter from middle of the track and hug the inside. There is camber. You need to trust the car... it will stick! You can take this VERY fast. Very light on the brakes on entry, and the car sort of rolls in (modulating with the throttle.)

T9 - Hug, don't track out and setup for late apex on final corner

Final corner - Champagne!
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Awesome run through.
do you ride all the way to the inside wall on 1, straddling the curbing?
I will try your approach on 2. I tend to start wide and brake as I hit the crown of the hill turning in.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by masterianvii
If you hit the camber on some of the corners just right you can fly through...but if you miss, you'll fly through them.




My approach is:
T1 - hug the inside and ride out the camber. With a bit more patience its enough to get out full speed right at the track out.

T2 - I treat this as a double apex. At the top of the hill I'm right on the inside. As the car goes down it track out, but there is camber. If you're brave, you hammer it downhill and the car somehow sticks, and you make the second apex... its a little concrete patch.

T3 - I enter from the middle of the track, hug the apex a bit more than seems logical.

T4 - Gentle lift (50% throttle) only to settle the car down, no brakes, aim for the center of the track and try to keep it a bit toward the outside of T5A but not all the way to the edge.

T5A - I use the hill to slow me down, on the brakes all the way, even while pointing the car toward T5B. You want the nose glued to the ground as the car makes the hill crest.

T5B - Don't hit the curbs!

T5A-B I'm in 2nd gear with the mosport_fixed set. You can adjust the gears a bit to give you a shorter gear. In 1st you risk blowing the motor.

T6 - Pedal to the metal

Esses - Enter from middle of the track and hug the inside. There is camber. You need to trust the car... it will stick! You can take this VERY fast. Very light on the brakes on entry, and the car sort of rolls in (modulating with the throttle.)

T9 - Hug, don't track out and setup for late apex on final corner

Final corner - Champagne!
nice write up. good point about T2 being double apex. I also treat the first part of the esses (the right hander) as a double apex. allows you to carry a bit more speed through there and sets you up for the left hander (T9) a little better.

question(s) in T4-5...1) are you to the left or right (or on top of) those two black patches mid-track at the bottom of the hill exiting T4? I'm to the left of them. 2) are you on the gas or just floating the car through the middle of the two right handers in T5?
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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I lift off, but not completely off the throttle as I crest the hill in T4 (it's more of an inverse blip), and hard on the gas all the way down right on top of the patches. Then hard on the brakes for T5A and I continue to ride the brakes all the way until I've got the car rotated to point to T5B.

I'm not sure if this is the optimal line, but given how the car gets all upset in that section, I try to stick to the middle of the track for safety. Of course if you're making a move on some car in that section you better make it stick wherever you are. If you're on the inside for T5A, make sure you slow down enough so you don't fly off, or kick the other car off the track.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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This may be a stupid question, but are shifting with the shift light or are you running the rpm's out to the end?
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Indy Rev
This may be a stupid question, but are shifting with the shift light or are you running the rpm's out to the end?
if iracing and my SLI are playing nice, then the shift light on the dash of the car is lighting up at the optimal shift point. so I shift when it lights up.

YMMV
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:23 PM
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holy crap! I just looked up the results from last night's practice session, some of you guys did ~70 laps!

now I feel unprepared!

to the sim I go....
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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As soon as they light up green seems to be the sweetspot. While I have not scientifically measured this, or looked up the optimal powerband, in the tab key I can see myself falling back a 100th of a sec or so when I go past that, or gain 100th if I shift around there.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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Cool Thanks.
Dont worry, you can be under prepared and still be fast than my slow ars.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 01:17 AM
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So I turned a few more laps tonight... honestly, I may go out for the race with 3 gallons of gas, try to set fast race lap and assume that I will wipe myself out in a one car accident before I run out of fuel. I can NOT string even 20 minutes of clean driving in this car.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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Dont do that. If you can get to practice today, drive at 9/10ths I bet you not only finish the race, but will not be last. I backed my laptimes down and was finally able to get the car down to no gas and be very consistent. Anyone trying to do schumacher 10 qualifying laps in a row might spend a lot of time in for repairs as there is just about no place you can go off and not pay for it dearly.
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Originally Posted by abqautoxer
Dont do that. If you can get to practice today, drive at 9/10ths I bet you not only finish the race, but will not be last. I backed my laptimes down and was finally able to get the car down to no gas and be very consistent. Anyone trying to do schumacher 10 qualifying laps in a row might spend a lot of time in for repairs as there is just about no place you can go off and not pay for it dearly.
hahaha, alright, I guess I can give it an honest try. I have no problem driving the cadillac at 9/10, and I have actually won some cadillac cup races against better drivers just by staying clean. I don't know why I have such an aversion to that with the corvette.

How much fuel are you thinking we need to run the race? My rough guess was about 10 gallons, but then it started to look like that wouldn't go the full length.

Also, is there a way to adjust the "fuel to fill" when you pit? If I have an incident, I don't want to leave with my brand new car and 25 gallons of fuel.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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That's a good question and one I'll have to figure out how much fuel to start with during practice tonight.

Hit F4 on your way into the pits, before you get into the stall to say you don't want more fuel. I don't know how to say you only want so much as I never have done that but I think there might be arrows next to the fuel amount on the F4 screen.
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