Glen, I'm using the setup Justin created a week ago shared by HoboJoe on page 129 I think of this thread via Dropbox. I literally changed nothing about it and found it a huge improvement over anything I had tried playing around on the C spec.

 

Cool... I'll check it out tonight.

P.S. McPorn, I saw your name on the list last night, but no response when I tried to reach out to you. Is your mic not working? Do you have "chat" enabled?

 

I'm snowed in for the day. If anyone is home froze/snowed in or just lazy and didn't want to work today and want to do some fun runs let me know. I'll set something up.

 

Now you have a mic and you have gone all Chatty Cathy! Don't expect miracles from that setup either, unless you have crazy Yonker skilz..

 

Sean I am "working" from home today. I'm trying to get caught up on a couple things this morning but might be able to join you later this afternoon. Otherwise I'll definitely be on tonight.

As for the "flipping" - I didn't flip anything (have yet to do it anywhere) but was definitely getting the car on 2 wheels in T11. I found it funny that once the rear tire was in the air, it would spin the wheel - must not be a clutch-pack style diff LOL.

The big red blocks REALLY upset the car so I just avoid them completely though. The car seems really stiff. I know Justin and Sean were talking last week about bump stops... which would make sense. I ran Justin's Laguna set at Mid-Ohio and it felt good... but any nudge of the inside curbing on T1 upsets the car.

As for Track vs. C-Spec... I guess I'm fine with either. I'm enjoying the C-Spec but I think that's mostly thanks to Justin's setups. Track overall is a LOT easier to drive... which should mean a lot less frustration for the new guys, and more folks finishing the race with their car in one piece.

I've never driven a newer 997-based car in anger... but it sure seems to me like the C-Spec handles more like a typical 911 than the Track does.

 

Fortunately for me, yonker sucks at iracing (as evidenced on the scoreboard in my game room from or last get-together). I'm "sawzall", apparently for my less-than-dainty steering inputs. Given that I have been completely emasculated/humiliated by him on track, I will take any win I can get (even if in the fantasy world).

 

That is the one thing I will say, the C Spec drives like a 911. For that it's fun yet tricky. However, if the Race makes it less frustrating, I'm all for that as we'll be a small lonely group if we use a car most people are crashing regularly. I had 89 incidents in 58 laps, for me this is probably 8x more than my normal for that many laps and probably the most spins I've ever had in a session. Sure I was pushing harder than I would in a race in search of qualifying pace, but it does certainly backup what struggles others have noticed.

 

We can do race 1 with the c-spec, then move to the track and compare overall incidents. It should be rather interesting.

 

I'd rather have a big group of guys having fun, than a small group of guys being challenged.

The C-Spec is rewarding when you get it working... just like a 911. But we're doing it for fun.

 

+1

I also think that Laguna is a tough track to start with in iracing. There is a reason that the Mazda cup does summit, Okayama, and Lime Rock first.

 

Probably - though it wasn't always that way. It used to alternate between Laguna and Lime Rock.

Though back in the days when I joined, they didn't have any of this "fast track" nonsense... I spent a FULL season in the Rookie Solstice going back and forth between Laguna and LR.

You'd think with all that time spent there I wouldn't be so frustrated every time I have to run there!

 

makes sense

 

I remeber those days. Spent a season in the spec ford then the skippy.

 

Back when, IMO, the license stripe meant something. If I saw another blue stripe out there, I knew they had a lot of seat time and experience under their belt. You could push other "A" drivers a LOT harder then.

Now, you can sign up and get yourself promoted to "A" in a week. It took me a frickin' YEAR to get there. And I constantly see guys in "A" cars with the "A" license way way way WAY over-driving the car.

And as some folks here are discovering... some of these cars really take a lot of seat time to master. Being forced to run a 12-week cycle with each car before you're allowed to race the next one really ensured you learned to master the car before being moved up.

I get why they introduced fast track... a lot of people just want to sign up to drive the fast cars... but it sucks for those of us that really try to race and progress.

 

Agreed, that is what I was trying to say.

I'm think I came into the system when you couldn't get anymore than one license per cycle. Thus, because I never really played steadily enough, I'm still a D license despite my decent safety and irating.