Bring back analog mechanisms
#1
Bring back analog mechanisms
So I think for the sake of PCNA seeing they must know there will always be a desire to bring back classic Pcar.
Cayenne 9Y0.3 with analog features (tach/clock, S/T), GTS dash options, Turbo facias.
PCNA don’t lose your heritage, with your DNA and the Cayenne.
Cayenne 9Y0.3 with analog features (tach/clock, S/T), GTS dash options, Turbo facias.
PCNA don’t lose your heritage, with your DNA and the Cayenne.
#2
Three Wheelin'
first, can they give us a rotating headlight switch and a scroll wheel to dim the cluster and interior lights???
hitting a single button 4 times to turn off ur lights is annoying.
navigating 4 levels deep in a menu to dim dash lights is annoying.
hitting a single button 4 times to turn off ur lights is annoying.
navigating 4 levels deep in a menu to dim dash lights is annoying.
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#3
There are 3 main reasons why car manufacturers are replacing analog solutions with digital ones.
1/ Fashion: customers fascinated by technological developments constantly expect new bells and whistles in new car models.
2/ Costs: it is much cheaper to produce an LCD screen with haptic operation instead of many buttons, ***** or analogue indicators.
3/ Car complexity: with the number of options, assistance systems or data provided, their operation would require the number of buttons or ***** like on an airplane's dashboard. Apart from the costs, their operation would be really difficult. Additionally, digital solutions enable constant system upgrades.
I think the next level will be the development of AI that will allow for complete control of the car by voice. What is currently available is far from perfect.
Analog solutions will probably remain mainly in niche cars such as the latest Bugatti, where the instrument panel is a masterpiece of Swiss watchmaking. Although even in such cars, digitization cannot be avoided.
1/ Fashion: customers fascinated by technological developments constantly expect new bells and whistles in new car models.
2/ Costs: it is much cheaper to produce an LCD screen with haptic operation instead of many buttons, ***** or analogue indicators.
3/ Car complexity: with the number of options, assistance systems or data provided, their operation would require the number of buttons or ***** like on an airplane's dashboard. Apart from the costs, their operation would be really difficult. Additionally, digital solutions enable constant system upgrades.
I think the next level will be the development of AI that will allow for complete control of the car by voice. What is currently available is far from perfect.
Analog solutions will probably remain mainly in niche cars such as the latest Bugatti, where the instrument panel is a masterpiece of Swiss watchmaking. Although even in such cars, digitization cannot be avoided.
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#4
I actually really prefer the digital 9Y0.2 dash vs the analog .1 dash and I have used both extensively. Of course it is a matter of preference.
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#5
Porsche's analog format speedometer display has essentially been a fashion statement since the late 2010's since it's scale is too small to be useful. Vehicle speed is much easier to see in digital format in the tachometer and heads-up display.
I use voice commands quite a lot but I sometimes mix up which ones are performed by Porsche Voice Pilot and which ones are performed by Google Assistant. I have to remember to do a short press of the turn signal stalk button (Porsche Voice Pilot) when voice tuning to a terrestrial, satellite or online radio station and a long press of the button (Google Assistant) to "next track", "previous track" when I'm streaming audio via Android Auto (e.g. YouTube Music).
I'm quite pleased with the current level of automation. A feature I might like: "Hey Porsche. Vaporize the A-hole who just cut me off."
Last edited by Woofman; 07-28-2024 at 12:38 PM.
#6
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As others have stated, the roadway from analog is oneway - there won't be any reverting back.
But - there are other ways that you can recapture the Porsche analog experience...
This is the way I do it...
'88 3.2 Carrera Sport Coupe - fully restored.
But - there are other ways that you can recapture the Porsche analog experience...
This is the way I do it...
'88 3.2 Carrera Sport Coupe - fully restored.
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#7
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There are 3 main reasons why car manufacturers are replacing analog solutions with digital ones.
1/ Fashion: customers fascinated by technological developments constantly expect new bells and whistles in new car models.
2/ Costs: it is much cheaper to produce an LCD screen with haptic operation instead of many buttons, ***** or analogue indicators.
3/ Car complexity: with the number of options, assistance systems or data provided, their operation would require the number of buttons or ***** like on an airplane's dashboard. Apart from the costs, their operation would be really difficult. Additionally, digital solutions enable constant system upgrades.
I think the next level will be the development of AI that will allow for complete control of the car by voice. What is currently available is far from perfect.
Analog solutions will probably remain mainly in niche cars such as the latest Bugatti, where the instrument panel is a masterpiece of Swiss watchmaking. Although even in such cars, digitization cannot be avoided.
1/ Fashion: customers fascinated by technological developments constantly expect new bells and whistles in new car models.
2/ Costs: it is much cheaper to produce an LCD screen with haptic operation instead of many buttons, ***** or analogue indicators.
3/ Car complexity: with the number of options, assistance systems or data provided, their operation would require the number of buttons or ***** like on an airplane's dashboard. Apart from the costs, their operation would be really difficult. Additionally, digital solutions enable constant system upgrades.
I think the next level will be the development of AI that will allow for complete control of the car by voice. What is currently available is far from perfect.
Analog solutions will probably remain mainly in niche cars such as the latest Bugatti, where the instrument panel is a masterpiece of Swiss watchmaking. Although even in such cars, digitization cannot be avoided.
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I’ve had my 24 base hybrid for 8 1/2 weeks and have 3203 miles including a few day-long driving trips. Except for future trips I don’t expect to spend so much time in the SUV when convertible weather kicks in after August.
I really like the digital dash. It’s more flexible than Mrs. L’s GLE450 dash and doesn’t share the Merc’s PITA mouse buttons that regularly inadvertently change the screen set up. That said, I hope they add an analog clock display in a future update.
After a fairly short learning curve, changing the screens to help me enjoy the drive is now easy. Switching to the map for instance can be done by touch and allows a quick glance to give an overview of what’s ahead. In that regard, the dash works well with the PCM. Combined with the well integrated hybrid system, air suspension and PDCC, the entirety of the vehicle is a lot of fun.
I really like the digital dash. It’s more flexible than Mrs. L’s GLE450 dash and doesn’t share the Merc’s PITA mouse buttons that regularly inadvertently change the screen set up. That said, I hope they add an analog clock display in a future update.
After a fairly short learning curve, changing the screens to help me enjoy the drive is now easy. Switching to the map for instance can be done by touch and allows a quick glance to give an overview of what’s ahead. In that regard, the dash works well with the PCM. Combined with the well integrated hybrid system, air suspension and PDCC, the entirety of the vehicle is a lot of fun.
#10
Porsche makes and sells more SUVs than any other car they make. They are helluva lot more people who want the latest and greatest tech in their cars (digital dash, heads up display, AR, etc..) than ones who want old fashion analog gauges that belong on a diesel generator. Without those buyers who want the latest tech and luxury feel with that Porsche badge you won’t have the other P cars.
They will never go back to analog gauges, because no other manufacturers are going analog. That ship has sail and these forums probably represent less than 1% of all owners.
They will never go back to analog gauges, because no other manufacturers are going analog. That ship has sail and these forums probably represent less than 1% of all owners.
#11
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i've had two recent 7 series. I find the bmw ergo to be superior to the cayenne.
The bmw has the thumb roll for dash dimmer seven shortcut programmable buttons, and 4 drive modes , all hard buttons, and there are five -i think- menu buttons around the iDrive dial.easy to control a lot from the first level with eyes on road and yet still looks sleek.
The bmw has the thumb roll for dash dimmer seven shortcut programmable buttons, and 4 drive modes , all hard buttons, and there are five -i think- menu buttons around the iDrive dial.easy to control a lot from the first level with eyes on road and yet still looks sleek.