Gotil83

I hope someone can help me with this question. I have a 24 S E Hybrid coming and after some research on the taycan forum, I come to the conclusion that the porscher charger sucks. And is planning to install the Tesla Universal charger (which seem to be popular on the taycan fourm too). My SA said porsche does not recommend using a adapter to charge their cars and if there is a problem as a result, porsche might void the warranty.

1) do you guys think charging with an adapter from Tesla will be problematic?
2) should I just use the porsche charger instead? But just install a really high quality plug.
3)get a different third party charger with the correct plug so no adapter need it like charge point.

Thank you

TacoBuddy

Out of interest whats wrong with the Porsche Charger?
I have a car arriving very soon but I didnt think the Porsche charger was bad if you get a proper ampage connection put in.

retom

Porsche charger is OK and completely sufficient to charge the hybrid. Try it before making decision about the purchase of another charger.

daveo4porsche

dealer BS - the proshde charger was ok for charging previous hybrids because they were only 3.6 kW or 7.2 - 2024 and later Hybrids are 48 amp (up to 11 kW) the problems with the Porsche charger occur when running it full capacity (as opposed to reduced compacity for 3.6/7.2 KW charging)

the warranty claim is UTTER 100% dealer unfiltered BS - Porsche is offering $600 consideration to Taycan owners to acquire a non-Porsche EV charger - and they have issued to check to my personally for my purchase of a Tesla universal charger - and Porsche's _OWN_ rebate instructions say - DO NOT USE THE porch charger and buy something else because it's not safe

the two top choices for EV chargers Eem to be Tesla Universal Charger and the ChargePoint Flex

buy either one with confidence and don't look back

NOTE: I'm the author/advocate and pebbble in Porsche's shoe about their charger and have authored _MOST_ of the Posts about the PMC+/PMCC

I can speak with utter 100% confidence on this topic and have a multi year posting history to prove it…

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...cc-pwcc.13886/

if it was a warranty issue why is Porsche cutting checks to Taycan owners who buy a Tesla Universal charger?

daveo4porsche

this is true for pre-2024 hybrids - no longer true given 2024 now charge at up to 11 kW - this will tax the porsche charger's capacity into the zone where it has problems.

I agree 100% for pre-2024 Cayenne hybrids - max charge rate was 30 amps - no problem for the Porsche EV charger.

Gotil83

Thank you so much for you reply. That is exactly what i was thinking. I can't find much information on the mobile charger for the 24 hybrid but from others with .1 Gen it only charge 7.2kw and the 24 can charge up to 11kw. The problem my SA have with the Tesla charger is that it uses an adapter.

TacoBuddy

Interesting reading!

Regarding above, I have a UK Cayenne on route and arriving very soon, will its charger be better or?

Gotil83

My concern is since i paying the electrician to do the job. I want it to be done correctly the first time with the correct amp at the panel and everything so in future if i get a full EV i wont worry about doing more electrical work.

daveo4porsche

the adatper is trivial and not really a thing - your SA is 100% clueless I promise you

you want either a NEMA 14-50/6-50 Hubble socket installed - 50 amp circuit for a 40 amp charge rate - 9.6 kW

_OR_

you want to installed a new 60 amp circuit and hardwire the Tesla universal charger for 48 amp charge rate matching the 2024 Hybrid's 11 k'w maximum charge rate - this I also the Macan EV's and other EV's normal maximum.

The charge point flex can be NEMA 14-50/6-50 based also - for a 40 amp charge rate (9.6 kW) or hardwired on a 60 amp breaker (48 amp 11 kw charge rate) or 70 amp breaker (hardwired) for a full 50 amp charge rate (slightly faster than 48 amp but no EV can really charge at a full 50 amps except a hummer or Ford Lightening)

both the Tesla and the Chargepoint get my nod as EV chargers because they both support J-1772 standard north american plugs (current Taycan's and Cayennes) & NACS plugs for all future EV's starting in 2026 - Tesla Universal has the adapter so no change required - the Chargpoint can "swap" the charging cable from J-1772 to NACS for minimal fee…

for me personally the Tesla get the nod for 3 reasons:

1. 48 amp charge rate on a 60 amp breaker
2. supports both J-1772 & NACS charging (it's coming)
3. it supports power sharing for up to 6 Tesla chargers to "share" a single breaker but charge multiple EV's - so when you have your Hybrid and your Macan EV you simple add a 2nd Tesla Universal Charger to your existing breaker and have both EV's "share" your 60 amp charging capacity but dynamically shift the load when one EV is done charging the remaining EV gets full capacity…it's a slick setup and honestly is happiness for your future mulit-EV household…

to prepare for your EV future these two threads might help - they have been well received
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...-do-it-….2343/
https://rennlist.com/forums/taycan/1...-charging.html

if you really want to do this only once - have your electrician install a 100/125 amp breaker in your main panel - route that new circuit to a new sub panel in the garage - in the sub panel add a 60/70 amp breaker for the Tesla/ChargePoint charger…

when it comes time for your 2nd EV charger you then add another breaker for the 2nd EV charger that does not overload the 100/125 amp circuit you installed in 2024 - easy peasy - your 2nd electrician visit will be trivial - even a DIY project if you're sufficient adventurous.

if you can't handle 100/125 amps - do an 80 amp - it can still be split and shared with two EV chargers for future overnight charging of two EV's…

daveo4porsche

the European Porsche EV chargers have been 99.9% problem free - what not 100%? because I don't honestly know and nothing is 100% problem free.

this is based forum member feedback in the Taycan forum from euro participants.

daveo4porsche

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/th...g-setup.18889/

daveo4porsche

https://rennlist.com/forums/macan-ev...l#&gid=1&pid=3

retom

I have Turbo Hybrid produced Jan 2024. The 11kW Porsche charger works well. However I am in EU so maybe chargers for the US market have some problems that European variants do not have.

Gotil83

for non hardwired charger, dont you only get a max 7.2kw and 11.2w requires 60amp at breaker and hardwired?

daveo4porsche

max charge rate for North American _MOBILE_ EVSE (ie. plug based) is 40 amps on a 50 amp breaker - normally via a NEMA 14-50/6-50 outlet.

40 amps @ 240V is 9.6 kW

a full 11 kW charge rate in North American requires a hardwired EVSE with a 60 amp breaker for a 48 amp EVSE charge rate.

Previous Cayennes (pre-2024 models) max charge rate was 7.2 kW - which is approximately 30 amps…

the provided EVSE included with the Cayenne is a mobile EVSE in North America so it's limited to 9.6 kW w/NEMa 14-50/6-50 outlet.