Engine Control Fault
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Engine Control Fault
2019 Cayenne turbo with 70,000 miles.
had a ticking noise in engine. Got warning for engine control fault. Drove home shut vehicle off and it wouldn’t start. It would turn over but start.
towed to dealership. They ran faults. Problem with cam sensor. Removed cam sensor and engine stared. Ordered and replaced cam sensor and car will not start again.
they told me that it has been elevated to engineers for help. Vehicle has been down 3 weeks now. Any suggestions…anyone else has-be this issue?
had a ticking noise in engine. Got warning for engine control fault. Drove home shut vehicle off and it wouldn’t start. It would turn over but start.
towed to dealership. They ran faults. Problem with cam sensor. Removed cam sensor and engine stared. Ordered and replaced cam sensor and car will not start again.
they told me that it has been elevated to engineers for help. Vehicle has been down 3 weeks now. Any suggestions…anyone else has-be this issue?
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4 years is at the start of the window for battery replacement. If you have an AGM I would throw a battery at it based purely on principle as a preemptive measure. If you have the expensive LiFePO4 battery I would let the dealer continue the diagnosis on his own.
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Fly121 (06-22-2023)
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Now at week 7 and car is still on the lift. Originally they thought it was a cam sensor issue. Continue to go back and forth with Porsche troubleshooting engineers. Now they think a faulty sensor on the flywheel. Engine coming out next week to get to it. My advice is to buy the extended warranty on these vehicles. My warranty ran out at 50,000 miles and I only have 70,000 miles but that is too many to expect a $150,000.00 Cayenne Turbo to run smoothly. First, it was and continues to be those f#@king brakes and the squeal. Then it was the water pump at 60,000 miles and on the lift for 4 weeks. Now this issue with engine fault and won’t start. Porsche North America customer service has been no help.
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chassis (07-18-2023)
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Thanks for the update, and sorry to hear about the challenges. Will you ride this out and pay for repairs? Or do you have a walk away price level if the bill exceeds a certain level?
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2019 Cayenne turbo with 70,000 miles.
had a ticking noise in engine. Got warning for engine control fault. Drove home shut vehicle off and it wouldn’t start. It would turn over but start.
towed to dealership. They ran faults. Problem with cam sensor. Removed cam sensor and engine stared. Ordered and replaced cam sensor and car will not start again.
they told me that it has been elevated to engineers for help. Vehicle has been down 3 weeks now. Any suggestions…anyone else has-be this issue?
had a ticking noise in engine. Got warning for engine control fault. Drove home shut vehicle off and it wouldn’t start. It would turn over but start.
towed to dealership. They ran faults. Problem with cam sensor. Removed cam sensor and engine stared. Ordered and replaced cam sensor and car will not start again.
they told me that it has been elevated to engineers for help. Vehicle has been down 3 weeks now. Any suggestions…anyone else has-be this issue?
Seems, too, that it's harder to diagnose on 9Y0's?
Below is a link with some info..
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...XYqCUDD4Goa9Wg
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Fly121 (07-19-2023)
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Now at week 7 and car is still on the lift. Originally they thought it was a cam sensor issue. Continue to go back and forth with Porsche troubleshooting engineers. Now they think a faulty sensor on the flywheel. Engine coming out next week to get to it. My advice is to buy the extended warranty on these vehicles. My warranty ran out at 50,000 miles and I only have 70,000 miles but that is too many to expect a $150,000.00 Cayenne Turbo to run smoothly. First, it was and continues to be those f#@king brakes and the squeal. Then it was the water pump at 60,000 miles and on the lift for 4 weeks. Now this issue with engine fault and won’t start. Porsche North America customer service has been no help.
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Latest update at 12 weeks is that the flywheel sensor is likely the reason the vehicle won’t start.
Dealership advised me to sell vehicle with faulty error.
I want it repaired before selling the vehicle.
Estimated out of pocket cost is around $10,000.00
ugh - I hate Porsche.
Paid around $150,000.00 in January 2019 and I’ll probably be lucky to get $40,000.00 4 years later.
Porsche NA really not helpful.
Dealership advised me to sell vehicle with faulty error.
I want it repaired before selling the vehicle.
Estimated out of pocket cost is around $10,000.00
ugh - I hate Porsche.
Paid around $150,000.00 in January 2019 and I’ll probably be lucky to get $40,000.00 4 years later.
Porsche NA really not helpful.
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Is a flywheel sensor the same as a crankshaft position sensor?
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I don’t think so.
first diagnosis was they thought it was a cam sensor.
when unplugged, the vehicle starts but the the new cam sensor won’t allow the vehicle to start.
that’s when they did further testing. And now they said defective flywheel sensor.
Didn’t need to remove engine for cam sensor replacement.
motor needs to be removed for flywheel sensor replacement.
first diagnosis was they thought it was a cam sensor.
when unplugged, the vehicle starts but the the new cam sensor won’t allow the vehicle to start.
that’s when they did further testing. And now they said defective flywheel sensor.
Didn’t need to remove engine for cam sensor replacement.
motor needs to be removed for flywheel sensor replacement.
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chassis (08-20-2023)
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I don’t think so.
first diagnosis was they thought it was a cam sensor.
when unplugged, the vehicle starts but the the new cam sensor won’t allow the vehicle to start.
that’s when they did further testing. And now they said defective flywheel sensor.
Didn’t need to remove engine for cam sensor replacement.
motor needs to be removed for flywheel sensor replacement.
first diagnosis was they thought it was a cam sensor.
when unplugged, the vehicle starts but the the new cam sensor won’t allow the vehicle to start.
that’s when they did further testing. And now they said defective flywheel sensor.
Didn’t need to remove engine for cam sensor replacement.
motor needs to be removed for flywheel sensor replacement.
What part number are you referring to, when you use the term "flywheel" sensor?
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Latest update at 12 weeks is that the flywheel sensor is likely the reason the vehicle won’t start.
Dealership advised me to sell vehicle with faulty error.
I want it repaired before selling the vehicle.
Estimated out of pocket cost is around $10,000.00
ugh - I hate Porsche.
Paid around $150,000.00 in January 2019 and I’ll probably be lucky to get $40,000.00 4 years later.
Porsche NA really not helpful.
Dealership advised me to sell vehicle with faulty error.
I want it repaired before selling the vehicle.
Estimated out of pocket cost is around $10,000.00
ugh - I hate Porsche.
Paid around $150,000.00 in January 2019 and I’ll probably be lucky to get $40,000.00 4 years later.
Porsche NA really not helpful.
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Latest update.
Flywheel sensor looked ok so they didn’t replace.
Took valve covers off and found broken rocker.
‘Now they’re scoping the engine looking for ball bearings.
my question is wouldn't a fault code indicate that a cylinder was not firing?
Now they’re telling me portion of repair is approaching 15,000-17,000.00
i don’t think I should be responsible for mis-diagnosis especially when they were communicating with Porsche engineers.
14 weeks without my vehicle and counting.
Flywheel sensor looked ok so they didn’t replace.
Took valve covers off and found broken rocker.
‘Now they’re scoping the engine looking for ball bearings.
my question is wouldn't a fault code indicate that a cylinder was not firing?
Now they’re telling me portion of repair is approaching 15,000-17,000.00
i don’t think I should be responsible for mis-diagnosis especially when they were communicating with Porsche engineers.
14 weeks without my vehicle and counting.