Help me decide..Turbo model
05-12-2023, 05:44 AM
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05-12-2023, 09:05 AM
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If you drive aggressively or if your daily drives include highway exits or mountain roads, you should never skip PDCC. I have a turbo with same specs as the first option and PDCC is the feature I like the most. It is VERY noticable
I personally won’t buy another Cayenne that doesn’t have PDCC since i always hated SUV’s body roll and thats what kept me away from them for years
The rule I follow in such hesitation moments is: Mechanic specs and driving dynamics first, then everything else comes second (exception if I dont like the car ext/int color)
I personally won’t buy another Cayenne that doesn’t have PDCC since i always hated SUV’s body roll and thats what kept me away from them for years
The rule I follow in such hesitation moments is: Mechanic specs and driving dynamics first, then everything else comes second (exception if I dont like the car ext/int color)
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Turrrbo (05-12-2023)
05-12-2023, 09:06 AM
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If you drive aggressively or if your daily drives include highway exits or mountain roads, you should never skip PDCC. I have a turbo with same specs as the first option and PDCC is the feature I like the most. It is VERY noticable
I personally won’t buy another Cayenne that doesn’t have PDCC since i always hated SUV’s body roll and thats what kept me away from them for years
The rule I follow in such hesitation moments is: Mechanic specs and driving dynamics first, then everything else comes second (exception if I dont like the car ext/int color)
I personally won’t buy another Cayenne that doesn’t have PDCC since i always hated SUV’s body roll and thats what kept me away from them for years
The rule I follow in such hesitation moments is: Mechanic specs and driving dynamics first, then everything else comes second (exception if I dont like the car ext/int color)
05-12-2023, 10:08 AM
#20
its always active and can’t be turned off. There is no need to turn it off since it doesn’t have disadvantages.
i forgot to mention that PDCC have another feature that people rarely talk about but its mentioned in Porsche videos about Cayenne PDCC, which is further body vibration reduction
i forgot to mention that PDCC have another feature that people rarely talk about but its mentioned in Porsche videos about Cayenne PDCC, which is further body vibration reduction
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05-12-2023, 11:30 AM
#21
its always active and can’t be turned off. There is no need to turn it off since it doesn’t have disadvantages.
i forgot to mention that PDCC have another feature that people rarely talk about but its mentioned in Porsche videos about Cayenne PDCC, which is further body vibration reduction
i forgot to mention that PDCC have another feature that people rarely talk about but its mentioned in Porsche videos about Cayenne PDCC, which is further body vibration reduction
05-12-2023, 10:42 PM
#22
If you drive aggressively or if your daily drives include highway exits or mountain roads, you should never skip PDCC. I have a turbo with same specs as the first option and PDCC is the feature I like the most. It is VERY noticable
I personally won’t buy another Cayenne that doesn’t have PDCC since i always hated SUV’s body roll and thats what kept me away from them for years
The rule I follow in such hesitation moments is: Mechanic specs and driving dynamics first, then everything else comes second (exception if I dont like the car ext/int color)
I personally won’t buy another Cayenne that doesn’t have PDCC since i always hated SUV’s body roll and thats what kept me away from them for years
The rule I follow in such hesitation moments is: Mechanic specs and driving dynamics first, then everything else comes second (exception if I dont like the car ext/int color)
05-13-2023, 12:27 AM
#23
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The benefit of stiffer sway bars which has a dramatic reduction on body lean in the corners. It works in a 911 and it works in the Cayenne. I can feel this at low and high speed cornering. In my opinion, it doesn’t make the car more capable of high speed cornering, but it changes the way you experience the corner. Some people love this and some people prefer a more natural feel.
It also makes the car more comfortable / compliant in normal day to day driving. It has the feel of fully disconnected sway bars.
The main drawbacks are initial cost to purchase, potential cost to maintain and the flat feeling in a corner which some don’t like.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.
Last edited by Jeff Jones; 05-13-2023 at 12:28 AM.
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05-13-2023, 02:22 PM
#24
PDCC doesn’t make the steering feel loose, numb, disconnected, etc. In my experience owning Porsches with and without, I would say PDCC has two main benefits:
The benefit of stiffer sway bars which has a dramatic reduction on body lean in the corners. It works in a 911 and it works in the Cayenne. I can feel this at low and high speed cornering. In my opinion, it doesn’t make the car more capable of high speed cornering, but it changes the way you experience the corner. Some people love this and some people prefer a more natural feel.
It also makes the car more comfortable / compliant in normal day to day driving. It has the feel of fully disconnected sway bars.
The main drawbacks are initial cost to purchase, potential cost to maintain and the flat feeling in a corner which some don’t like.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.
The benefit of stiffer sway bars which has a dramatic reduction on body lean in the corners. It works in a 911 and it works in the Cayenne. I can feel this at low and high speed cornering. In my opinion, it doesn’t make the car more capable of high speed cornering, but it changes the way you experience the corner. Some people love this and some people prefer a more natural feel.
It also makes the car more comfortable / compliant in normal day to day driving. It has the feel of fully disconnected sway bars.
The main drawbacks are initial cost to purchase, potential cost to maintain and the flat feeling in a corner which some don’t like.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.
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Jeff Jones (05-14-2023)
05-14-2023, 03:15 AM
#25
I love electronic sway bars. It was standard on a RR sport SC.
I would never matter on a race track, but in the highway and just banking or turning, your mind will compensate to the opposite and you will realize the body roll is almost none. It is quite amazing the first time you experience it.
My wife loves it.
if I can order RWS and PDCC as option I will try to order it on any cars.
HUD is useless to me.
I would never matter on a race track, but in the highway and just banking or turning, your mind will compensate to the opposite and you will realize the body roll is almost none. It is quite amazing the first time you experience it.
My wife loves it.
if I can order RWS and PDCC as option I will try to order it on any cars.
HUD is useless to me.
Last edited by thxbuff2001; 05-14-2023 at 03:16 AM.
05-14-2023, 11:22 AM
#26
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PDCC doesn’t make the steering feel loose, numb, disconnected, etc. In my experience owning Porsches with and without, I would say PDCC has two main benefits:
The benefit of stiffer sway bars which has a dramatic reduction on body lean in the corners. It works in a 911 and it works in the Cayenne. I can feel this at low and high speed cornering. In my opinion, it doesn’t make the car more capable of high speed cornering, but it changes the way you experience the corner. Some people love this and some people prefer a more natural feel.
It also makes the car more comfortable / compliant in normal day to day driving. It has the feel of fully disconnected sway bars.
The main drawbacks are initial cost to purchase, potential cost to maintain and the flat feeling in a corner which some don’t like.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.
The benefit of stiffer sway bars which has a dramatic reduction on body lean in the corners. It works in a 911 and it works in the Cayenne. I can feel this at low and high speed cornering. In my opinion, it doesn’t make the car more capable of high speed cornering, but it changes the way you experience the corner. Some people love this and some people prefer a more natural feel.
It also makes the car more comfortable / compliant in normal day to day driving. It has the feel of fully disconnected sway bars.
The main drawbacks are initial cost to purchase, potential cost to maintain and the flat feeling in a corner which some don’t like.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.
05-14-2023, 11:36 AM
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My one experience with active sways was in my 2011 5 series. I hated them. Made it feel loose and disconnected when driving straight ahead. I have yet to drive any Porsche with them. Hope they are better.
05-14-2023, 12:04 PM
#28
The main drawbacks are initial cost to purchase, potential cost to maintain and the flat feeling in a corner which some don’t like.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.[/QUOTE]
Its an added cost. Its a luxury that if you have experienced it, you will hope it is on all SUVs.
I hope in the future it will be standard on all SUV.
I experienced it first on my 2005 RR Sport SC but my 17 RR it is absent.
I ordered it on my GTS and 24 Base Cayenne.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.[/QUOTE]
Its an added cost. Its a luxury that if you have experienced it, you will hope it is on all SUVs.
I hope in the future it will be standard on all SUV.
I experienced it first on my 2005 RR Sport SC but my 17 RR it is absent.
I ordered it on my GTS and 24 Base Cayenne.
Last edited by thxbuff2001; 05-14-2023 at 12:07 PM.
05-14-2023, 02:44 PM
#29
The main drawbacks are initial cost to purchase, potential cost to maintain and the flat feeling in a corner which some don’t like.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.
Personally I love it and I especially love it in a SUV. It is one of those Porsche tricks that makes a big vehicle feel like a much smaller sports car.
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05-14-2023, 02:49 PM
#30
We had a 2013 X5 5.0i with the M driving package. Probably the best feeling X5 we ever owned. Steering was nice and tight and it cornered great. I am not a big fan of the newer X5’s as I do think they feel loose and disconnected and this includes the current X5 M50i which my wife drives and loves. We have a 2022 X5 M50i and it feels way too loose. I have not liked the direction BMW went with their newer X5’s which is way I have been driving the Cayenne. The X5M doesn’t feel that way though.