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Old 10-14-2021, 04:21 PM
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Oh, you can bet your booty they will push this through asap. The NDP are already salivating to "stick it to the rich" again.
That is funny because the rich wont suffer with this luxury tax. Its regular folks who save up for years to buy their dream car that will suffer. I remember when I got my first good car in my mid 20s. I paid off my student loans and saved up for more than 2 years to buy the car as that was more important to me than spending on fancy vacations and dinners. A 20% tax would have priced me out of the market then.
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Originally Posted by rj2014
That is funny because the rich wont suffer with this luxury tax. Its regular folks who save up for years to buy their dream car that will suffer. I remember when I got my first good car in my mid 20s. I paid off my student loans and saved up for more than 2 years to buy the car as that was more important to me than spending on fancy vacations and dinners. A 20% tax would have priced me out of the market then.
I don't think a student saving up for a $125,000 car is Porsche's target market or the demographic likely to be affected by the new tax. Porsche sells $150,000 cars to households with $400,000+ income and I can't speak for them but having to pay a $10,000 luxury will bother me. I din't get to the position to being able to afford a $150,000 car by dismissing $10,000 bills.
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I don't think a student saving up for a $125,000 car is Porsche's target market or the demographic likely to be affected by the new tax. Porsche sells $150,000 cars to households with $400,000+ income and I can't speak for them but having to pay a $10,000 luxury will bother me. I din't get to the position to being able to afford a $150,000 car by dismissing $10,000 bills.
I was not a student saving up and had already been working for a few years by then. And yes, it is a ridiculous tax but my point is that it will hurt the regular folks that want a good car more than it will hurt the rich. I have a friend that saved up for a while to buy a M3 comp as he loved M cars and wanted to track regularly. Its people like him that will suffer the most IMO.
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In Virginia you pay a personal property tax on vehicles. It’s like paying sales tax for your car EVERY DAMN year. I paid tax when I bought the car and just received my annual personal property tax bill of an additional $6k and can expect something similar each year….albeit slightly decreased each year as the car depreciates.
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In Virginia you pay a personal property tax on vehicles. It’s like paying sales tax for your car EVERY DAMN year. I paid tax when I bought the car and just received my annual personal property tax bill of an additional $6k and can expect something similar each year….albeit slightly decreased each year as the car depreciates.
What is the percentage rate of the personal property tax?

Actually, there is a Virginia Beach online calculator. You pay $4.00/$100 of value, so on a $150,000 car your tax would be $5,625 in year 1, $4,425 in year 2 and $3,705 in year 3 (assuming 30%, 20%, 15% depreciation rates). That is actually more than the proposed Canadian Lux tax, which only applies to the original sale of the car, not a resale and in this example would be $10,000. Crazy taxes.

You must have cars valued at $160,000 sitting in your garage. How do they determine value? If you have 2 year old 911 bought for $160,000 that was in a $40,000 accident, can you diminish the repaired value?

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Originally Posted by c1pher
In Virginia you pay a personal property tax on vehicles. It’s like paying sales tax for your car EVERY DAMN year. I paid tax when I bought the car and just received my annual personal property tax bill of an additional $6k and can expect something similar each year….albeit slightly decreased each year as the car depreciates.
Wow, that's some crazy sheit. And here I thought our system was fubared. Looks like we have some more to go ..
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Originally Posted by kayjh
What is the percentage rate of the personal property tax?

Actually, there is a Virginia Beach online calculator. You pay $4.00/$100 of value, so on a $150,000 car your tax would be $5,625 in year 1, $4,425 in year 2 and $3,705 in year 3 (assuming 30%, 20%, 15% depreciation rates). That is actually more than the proposed Canadian Lux tax, which only applies to the original sale of the car, not a resale and in this example would be $10,000. Crazy taxes.

You must have cars valued at $160,000 sitting in your garage. How do they determine value? If you have 2 year old 911 bought for $160,000 that was in a $40,000 accident, can you diminish the repaired value?
I have a 2020 Cayenne Turbo Coupe and a 2021 Targa 4S.
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I have a 2020 Cayenne Turbo Coupe and a 2021 Targa 4S.
It seems $6,000 in taxes is too low based on the total value. I won't say anything though ...
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Originally Posted by CanuckGT4
Wow, that's some crazy sheit. And here I thought our system was fubared. Looks like we have some more to go ..
But some states have no income tax, state sales taxes and the USA doesn't have a VAT (like our GST) so overall, might still be less expensive in the USA from a taxation perspective.



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