9Y0 Cayenne Turbo 0W-40 oil top off; Mobil 1 FS vs Mobil 1 ESP vs Mobil 1 ESP X3?
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I need to add 2 quarts of oil to my C GTS but can't source Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 X3 (other than the local dealer). Has anyone tried Motul 8100 X-Clean Gen2 5W40? It's a C40 oil that's $50 for 5 liters and available on Amazon. See
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I need to add 2 quarts of oil to my C GTS but can't source Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 X3 (other than the local dealer). Has anyone tried Motul 8100 X-Clean Gen2 5W40? It's a C40 oil that's $50 for 5 liters and available on Amazon. See https://www.amazon.com/Motul-8100-X-...omotive&sr=1-6
Here's a post from a Motul representative describing the release of the new oil last May 2020. Lots of good info in this thread regarding SAPS content effects on particulate filters. He also addresses how they modify oil formulations to prevent Low Speed Pre-Ignition.
I wanted to post an update to say that our "gen2" versions of both 8100 X-cess 5W40 and 8100 X-clean 5W40 have started to ship to distributors and should arrive at most online retailers and dealers this summer.
Our primary reason for reformulating was due to new standards from BMW to meet their improved LL-01 and LL-04 standards on 2019+ vehicles, but it also gave us a chance to achieve the new Porsche C40 approval on our X-clean 5W40 gen2 product.
Full details on the launch can be found here: INTRODUCING 8100 X-CESS 5W40 GEN 2 AND X-CLEAN 5W40 GEN2
Here are the basics:
8100 X-cess 5W40 gen2 - will eventually phase out current product as it retains the same approvals (Porsche A40, VW 502 00 / 505 00, MB 229.5/226/5) but is an improved formula to retain the adjusted BMW LL-01 standard.
8100 X-clean 5W40 gen2 - new product is reformulated and has approvals for Porsche C40**, VW 511 00**, GM dexos2, MB, 229.52/226.5, and adjusted BMW LL-04 standard. Will exist alongside the "first gen" or current product as that formula offers Porsche A40 and VW 502 00 / 505 00 / 505 01. **new Porsche C40 and VW 511 00 standards are not backwards compatible.
Our primary reason for reformulating was due to new standards from BMW to meet their improved LL-01 and LL-04 standards on 2019+ vehicles, but it also gave us a chance to achieve the new Porsche C40 approval on our X-clean 5W40 gen2 product.
Full details on the launch can be found here: INTRODUCING 8100 X-CESS 5W40 GEN 2 AND X-CLEAN 5W40 GEN2
Here are the basics:
8100 X-cess 5W40 gen2 - will eventually phase out current product as it retains the same approvals (Porsche A40, VW 502 00 / 505 00, MB 229.5/226/5) but is an improved formula to retain the adjusted BMW LL-01 standard.
8100 X-clean 5W40 gen2 - new product is reformulated and has approvals for Porsche C40**, VW 511 00**, GM dexos2, MB, 229.52/226.5, and adjusted BMW LL-04 standard. Will exist alongside the "first gen" or current product as that formula offers Porsche A40 and VW 502 00 / 505 00 / 505 01. **new Porsche C40 and VW 511 00 standards are not backwards compatible.
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I need to add 2 quarts of oil to my C GTS but can't source Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 X3 (other than the local dealer). Has anyone tried Motul 8100 X-Clean Gen2 5W40? It's a C40 oil that's $50 for 5 liters and available on Amazon. See https://www.amazon.com/Motul-8100-X-...omotive&sr=1-6
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Well I stopped by my local dealer today, and to my surprise they had the proper Mobil1 X3 oil available by the liter in retail packaging for under $10 a piece. I picked up 5 to have on hand for top off and went merrily on my way.
The part number on the receipt was “0-W40-ESP” with description “0W40 ESP X3” and I confirmed on the bottle that it says X3 and C40 rating.
Interestingly, the bottles have a gray cap and look slightly different from others in this thread.
The part number on the receipt was “0-W40-ESP” with description “0W40 ESP X3” and I confirmed on the bottle that it says X3 and C40 rating.
Interestingly, the bottles have a gray cap and look slightly different from others in this thread.
Last edited by Mech33; 07-07-2021 at 09:26 PM.
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That’s fantastic news, Mech33. My dealer told me they had recently found a new source for C40 oil and that the price would soon drop; never expected it to be below ten bucks, though! This, of course, after I paid over $70 for two liters imported from Germany. 😩
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I called my local dealer Porsche Palm Springs and they also received a small amount of X3 oil. The price is $10.25 per qt and they only have four available.
Edit: I just got back from the dealer and, as noted in a post above, the label has changed in that the cap is now grey. Note that I've circled the X3 nomenclature and the C40 approval is on the back.
Edit: I just got back from the dealer and, as noted in a post above, the label has changed in that the cap is now grey. Note that I've circled the X3 nomenclature and the C40 approval is on the back.
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Just got a call from dealer. My annual service scheduled for tomorrow is cancelled because they have no C40 oil. They have no idea when it will come in. Five others are also waiting on C40 oil.
So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.
So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.
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Just got a call from dealer. My annual service scheduled for tomorrow is cancelled because they have no C40 oil. They have no idea when it will come in. Five others are also waiting on C40 oil.
So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.
So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.
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Just got a call from dealer. My annual service scheduled for tomorrow is cancelled because they have no C40 oil. They have no idea when it will come in. Five others are also waiting on C40 oil.
So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.
So no chips to make them and no oil / parts to service them. How long until we go full Mad Max? 😫 I’m gonna go buy some more toilet paper.
https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/0w40m1espx3.html
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Thanks to both of you for the help!
Last edited by Schnave; 11-10-2021 at 12:33 PM.