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Old 12-12-2020, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pietpara
thanks for sharing.
So, does the air suspension on the cayenne also allow 3 stiffness settings? And pdcc keeps it flat in all levels?
Yes that is exactly how the two work together. I normally drive with Air in the lowest (sport) setting, with the PDCC it is a very comfortable ride.
Old 12-12-2020, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TXSchnee
Yes that is exactly how the two work together. I normally drive with Air in the lowest (sport) setting, with the PDCC it is a very comfortable ride.
thanks a lot.
So, just to understand, the air suspension stiffness and the suspension height are two different settings (and on top of that PDCC) ? On the panamera it is, so wondering if the cayenne too.
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Originally Posted by pietpara
..the air suspension stiffness and the suspension height are two different settings (and on top of that PDCC) ?
The stiffness, ie, damping (PASM), is separate from the adjustable ride height. Think of the 911's that have PASM but not air suspension.
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Originally Posted by pietpara
thanks a lot.
So, just to understand, the air suspension stiffness and the suspension height are two different settings (and on top of that PDCC) ? On the panamera it is, so wondering if the cayenne too.
What dasams said, PASM is stiffness, air is height, PDCC controls the anti-roll bar system. On the Cayenne, PASM comes with Air, so stiffness and height would be adjustable with just Air ordered.
Old 12-13-2020, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TXSchnee
What dasams said, PASM is stiffness, air is height, PDCC controls the anti-roll bar system. On the Cayenne, PASM comes with Air, so stiffness and height would be adjustable with just Air ordered.
thanks dasams and TXschnee!

BTW, its a real pity that the Cayenne doesn't have the door option of the stepless opening, as the panamera does. Its one of the best inventions IMHO. No accidental slamming doors into cars or obstacles.
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I have it on my 2020 E Hybrid, but honestly it isn't a must have at all. I test drove both with and without through curves, on-ramps, freeways, rough toads and city streets. In most situations PDCC is an incremental improvement but in some it's a degradation relative to what I like and it is one more complex system. Without PDCC Cayennes are still incredibly nimble and handle like sports cars. Opinions based on ownership but not comparison may be more confirmation bias than useful.
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Originally Posted by Russian Mafia
Opinions based on ownership but not comparison may be more confirmation bias than useful.
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I passed on PDCC since my build was at $130k and and I knew that I'd be typically driving on low height (and it's 10 mm lower than other Cayennes) meaning reduced suspension travel. Also, for spirited driving, I'd have damping on Sport + further reducing suspension travel. But then again, as RM noted above, my reasoning could well be a demonstration of confirmation bias
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Old 12-13-2020, 01:02 PM
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I think the Cayennes handle pretty well for an SUV in base form. I don’t think air suspension or PDCC are critical. I drove versions with and without. I would recommend PASM if buying a base. You really can’t make a bad decision whether adding suspension options or not.

If money is no object, load it up with suspension options. Should handle even better and doesn’t hurt anything other than your wallet and long term reliability. Trading the car every 4 years or buying an extended warranty would address potential reliability concerns.

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I tend to agree with Nick Murray:

PDCC @ 38:50


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Old 12-15-2020, 11:56 AM
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Got it on my 2020 and love it. Does exactly what it advertises.
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Old 12-17-2020, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by icemang
I tend to agree with Nick Murray:

PDCC @ 38:50

https://youtu.be/WYbBT7Lyrhw?t=2330
I actually disagree with him on this - I don’t think it’s a performance or track oriented option per say; I prefer my sports cars and their suspension feedback pure - I want to feel exactly how the car turns in, takes a set, and how/why it rotates w my inputs through the corner, without any active suspension trickery.

Whereas a tall SUV rolling while cornering (and again, this might not be a spirited drive, could just be a twisty road or a high way sweeper that dictates a certain min speed to maintain momentum) is actually a comfort issue in my mind, especially for passengers. I ordered it for comfort - I opt out of PDCC in 911s.
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Old 12-22-2020, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by erko1905
I actually disagree with him on this - I don’t think it’s a performance or track oriented option per say; I prefer my sports cars and their suspension feedback pure - I want to feel exactly how the car turns in, takes a set, and how/why it rotates w my inputs through the corner, without any active suspension trickery.
Any race car driver would agree with you on this and then some.

*Speaking strictly from track only driving, not on road performance driving.

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I have the air suspension (no PDCC) and really don’t feel the car roll much at all. Can’t imagine much of an incremental benefit from the PDCC, and it’s one more thing to break.
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Originally Posted by 8378hjlafdljfads
I have the PDCC on my Turbo and I think it is amazing. The vehicle is super flat, almost no body roll, feels natural too! I had a Macan S loaner for 2 months without PDCC and it felt like a total boat, huge body roll compared to my Cayenne Turbo with PDCC. Very, very glad I have it.
Your post has me wondering what (short of a bad accident) could have kept your turbo off the road for 2 months??


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