PDCC - do you have it on your Cayenne and what is your opinion?
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PDCC - do you have it on your Cayenne and what is your opinion?
Still have plenty of time until my build for my Turbo Coupe locks. Who ordered or has PDCC (Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control) on their Cayenne? What do you think about the value of the option? Does it really make the 2+ ton Cayenne handle sports car flat and does it feel synthetic or engineered? Also worries about the long term maintenance of yet another system, and this time it’s 48 volts.
i am definitely adding rear axle steering and PTV but am on the fence as to whether to include PDCC.
Feedback welcome.
i am definitely adding rear axle steering and PTV but am on the fence as to whether to include PDCC.
Feedback welcome.
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I'll go against the grain and say while it is noticeable from the Cayennes I've driven, my use case for a Cayenne would rarely if ever include taking a corner hard and fast. If it wasn't for me actively looking for situations to test the PDCC, the only time I would really feel it is on curvy on or off ramps. And even then, it's not like the standard Cayenne leans like the ladder frame SUVs of the previous era. In fact, I actually find a little body lean more fun because it makes me feel like I'm taking the turn harder than I actually am.
So for my intended use, PDCC doesn't make sense. I intend to use the Cayenne as a practical daily with the fun portion coming from being a straight line highway missile.
So for my intended use, PDCC doesn't make sense. I intend to use the Cayenne as a practical daily with the fun portion coming from being a straight line highway missile.
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I'll go against the grain and say while it is noticeable from the Cayennes I've driven, my use case for a Cayenne would rarely if ever include taking a corner hard and fast. If it wasn't for me actively looking for situations to test the PDCC, the only time I would really feel it is on curvy on or off ramps. And even then, it's not like the standard Cayenne leans like the ladder frame SUVs of the previous era. In fact, I actually find a little body lean more fun because it makes me feel like I'm taking the turn harder than I actually am.
So for my intended use, PDCC doesn't make sense. I intend to use the Cayenne as a practical daily with the fun portion coming from being a straight line highway missile.
So for my intended use, PDCC doesn't make sense. I intend to use the Cayenne as a practical daily with the fun portion coming from being a straight line highway missile.
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PDCC is of little benefit when driving straight on highway, but helps a little or a lot in many other situations. Hard cornering is not necessary to feel the benefits - the transition from right to left turns in S-curves feels better. To me the biggest benefit was surprising - less motion sickness. I can get to mountains for skiing/biking 10-20% faster with it just because kids would not puke with PDCC at much higher speeds.
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David Mackintosh (09-03-2020)
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Must have in my opinion for a car/SUV this size. We have air pasm/pdcc on our base.
It's not really about cornering at the limit of the vehicle per say (which I do sometimes when I'm on my own and it's definitely fun), but more about how composed the car is on just any non-straight section of road w air susp + PDCC. So the car carries speed with such ease through any highway merge, high speed sweeper or twisty road, that you can confidently brake much less for things and just maintain your speed. Add the softer straight line suspension it allows, and almost zero body roll to that, combined w less need to accelerate and decelerate, and a long road trip becomes a true Boeing 747 experience. Add the acoustic glass on top and it makes for very comfortable passengers who don't have a clue/never complain that you might be going at a decent clip. I like that since historically i've had a lot of complaints.
If it was a sporting vehicle for me I probably wouldn't have optioned it as I like to feel how I load up the suspension and feedback that comes w that on track or backroads, but for a luxury cruiser I feel it's a must.
Having said all that, I did really push it earlier this year in NC mountains and it is extremely capable w PDCC.
It's not really about cornering at the limit of the vehicle per say (which I do sometimes when I'm on my own and it's definitely fun), but more about how composed the car is on just any non-straight section of road w air susp + PDCC. So the car carries speed with such ease through any highway merge, high speed sweeper or twisty road, that you can confidently brake much less for things and just maintain your speed. Add the softer straight line suspension it allows, and almost zero body roll to that, combined w less need to accelerate and decelerate, and a long road trip becomes a true Boeing 747 experience. Add the acoustic glass on top and it makes for very comfortable passengers who don't have a clue/never complain that you might be going at a decent clip. I like that since historically i've had a lot of complaints.
If it was a sporting vehicle for me I probably wouldn't have optioned it as I like to feel how I load up the suspension and feedback that comes w that on track or backroads, but for a luxury cruiser I feel it's a must.
Having said all that, I did really push it earlier this year in NC mountains and it is extremely capable w PDCC.
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I ordered my turbo with PDCC along with the other performance gizmos based on press test reviews....all the Cayennes that Porsche was sending to journalists had PDCC/ RWS/ PASM/ PTV etc etc. I did not have a chance to test drive beforehand on dealer lot- and perhaps some "FOMO" effect- so I checked the boxes. Coming from a M5, wanted to minimize body roll in a heavy SUV plus a daily driver ride. Not disappointed at all. Agree with the comments above - works seamlessly on highway sweepers and city turns - no body roll - especially with RWS and "Low" suspension setting.
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poolie (01-03-2021)
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Hi all,
I was wondering about the pdcc too. My dealer said that some customers weren't too convinced because it's rather harsh on speed bumps and they live in areas with many of them. Since you can't turn off the pdcc, these customers wished they hadn't chosen the option.
I wonder if the adaptive air suspension allows the softer ride when needed with pdcc on? In my panamera this certainly helps, although I don't have pdcc in it.
Any experience anyone can share?
I personally do like the pdcc idea on a high car like this. I have it on my 911 gts, and there I'd be inclined to say it doesn't add much value, not even on the track.
Cheers
I was wondering about the pdcc too. My dealer said that some customers weren't too convinced because it's rather harsh on speed bumps and they live in areas with many of them. Since you can't turn off the pdcc, these customers wished they hadn't chosen the option.
I wonder if the adaptive air suspension allows the softer ride when needed with pdcc on? In my panamera this certainly helps, although I don't have pdcc in it.
Any experience anyone can share?
I personally do like the pdcc idea on a high car like this. I have it on my 911 gts, and there I'd be inclined to say it doesn't add much value, not even on the track.
Cheers
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Hi all,
I was wondering about the pdcc too. My dealer said that some customers weren't too convinced because it's rather harsh on speed bumps and they live in areas with many of them. Since you can't turn off the pdcc, these customers wished they hadn't chosen the option.
I wonder if the adaptive air suspension allows the softer ride when needed with pdcc on? In my panamera this certainly helps, although I don't have pdcc in it.
Any experience anyone can share?
I personally do like the pdcc idea on a high car like this. I have it on my 911 gts, and there I'd be inclined to say it doesn't add much value, not even on the track.
Cheers
I was wondering about the pdcc too. My dealer said that some customers weren't too convinced because it's rather harsh on speed bumps and they live in areas with many of them. Since you can't turn off the pdcc, these customers wished they hadn't chosen the option.
I wonder if the adaptive air suspension allows the softer ride when needed with pdcc on? In my panamera this certainly helps, although I don't have pdcc in it.
Any experience anyone can share?
I personally do like the pdcc idea on a high car like this. I have it on my 911 gts, and there I'd be inclined to say it doesn't add much value, not even on the track.
Cheers
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I have the PDCC on my Turbo and I think it is amazing. The vehicle is super flat, almost no body roll, feels natural too! I had a Macan S loaner for 2 months without PDCC and it felt like a total boat, huge body roll compared to my Cayenne Turbo with PDCC. Very, very glad I have it.
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So, does the air suspension on the cayenne also allow 3 stiffness settings? And pdcc keeps it flat in all levels?