you are greatly mistaken
the code for carplay or android auto can be purchased, it is entered offline, through piwis 3 or odis engineering

through the pm 5.0 network adapter, you can do this only after editing the eeprom to get root access, for this you need to remove pcm 5.0 (without removing only pcm 4.0)
I know how it works, the firmware with the patch, with the subsequent update of the pcm, ALL THIS WILL STOP WORKING, in addition, you will get an error when updating the PCM from the card

the only correct option is to buy the code and add it to the car's configuration, and in the case of android auto. buy a code for 250 euros and enter it through piwis 3 in E mode
and you will immediately get a working option with the original firmware, without errors, without removing the PCM, and dancing with a tambourine around a broken car

 

1. I guess you are talking about the offline swap injection via odis-e or piwis-e and that code you are talking about is not genuine at all, it was calculated by using unit vcrn code.

The genuine code from Porsche needs to be activated via piwis online so that can update the car option as CarPlay is retrofitted, so that it will be stay with car permanently.

The offline code you are talking about has got nothing to do with Porsches and as you put a FsC code into the unit without authorised by porches so it will be avoid warranty once dealer find it out by using piwis.

2. For the root access on PCM5 you are talking about is removing emmc chip not eeprom. I guess you have no idea what are they nor know why doing this

3. The removing emmc is really old solution for getting root access from 2 years ago, no one is using it anymore,. There is much better way to gain access by just put into a sd card or using default challenge tcp port to unlock the access. It is all based on factory challenge reasoned process. I guess you need some study to find out what it is.

4. the patch file you are talking about for PCM4 is patching the program which checks the FSC code stored in unit, and then put in a fake FsC with CarPlay enable code. However, you don’t know that you can do much better way to activate the CarPlay /android auto without patching that program at all. This will be done on all application layer and will be also invisible from any CAN bus based diagnostic tool or program.

5. As all done by application layer so you can also modify it to show better resolution, like 1920x720 full hd on CarPlay and android auto, where the original one only can have 800x600

You may need to update all new information about solution on PCM5 and mib2plus head unit.

I am a software developer and have been worked on VAG car informant system for past 8 years from mmi3g product, I know inside and out of those unit and how it works. So some of information you provided were really obsolete, you need to update your knowledge base and learn more

 

let's start with the fact that the code is generated using the vcrn and vin of the car, the same applies to generating code for gateway. (just like at the Porsche factory) And entering the code online after buying from a dealer, or offline does not violate the terms of the warranty in any way. since after any update to a newer firmware, you can enter the activation code again, you do not disrupt the operation of the PCM in any way, and the complement remains unchanged, in your case, you modify the PCM. If something happens to this PCM, the car owner will definitely lose the warranty, and buy a PCM at his own expense, or does your service include the purchase of a new PCM ?
why do you get access to the PCM root system? to slip in your files that you have manually modified. this is called a pcm hack. what guarantee are you trying to tell me about ? and you want to say that after your modification, the dealer will have a record of the purchase of carplay or andriod auto in the vehicle configuration by vin ? and the dealer will have these changes in the pr codes of the configuration ? don't make me laugh. the simplest way to activate, without buying a d-link lan adapter, remotely hacking pcm and wasting time and money, is simply to enter the activation code for a specific car by vin

 

1. As I said, the code is generated by using vin and vcrn and only stored in unit itself not on sever. And Porsches has really restrict warranty policy, so it they see that new 608 code in your car without being listed on car option in sever then it will avoid warranty! I have seen case already. Let’s put this way, the code you are selling is not genuine code and if (only if) it found out by dealer it WILL avoid warranty.

2. Yes, You are right, getting into the system is hacking so as how the offline code being developed (by obtaining private key and algorithm. The root access is to do the change or activation on application layer so that won’t be detected by any diagnostic tool.
i didn’t say it will be seeing as “purchased” I am saying that won’t be detected as it will be invisible from CAN level.

i guess you don’t really understand the detailed technical level of all these

read my comment carefully and probably do some more research and learn some software development knowledge before making some comments. That will make your comment look more logical, otherwise any people with some software back ground see your comment will make laugh about it

 

Believe me , I understand perfectly
you simply cannot generate code for a specific vin and vcrn. therefore, you have to hack the device and manually change the values, and I often saw how after automatic encoding on these pcm there was an error in the form of a software error. automatic encoding is often needed, including at the dealer, when activating assistants, for example,
I work a lot with Porsche, the activation code that is entered is the same for online and offline, almost all work is done by the dealer offline, online is only required to removing component protection and online programming of the new ecu
in your case, the dealer will simply refuse to change the pcm. and most likely will remove the car from the warranty
if, in addition to hacking pcm, you would be engaged in repairing these cars, changing the configuration, encoding the ecu, you would understand this perfectly well, but you can only modify mib 2. 2+ (pcm 4/5). I wonder what you will do with pcm 6? gateway can 't be hacked , only the code


in any case, I will not interfere with your business, I do not hack other people's pcm and do not break other people's cars. no offense
I wish you good luck

 

1. “Change value manually” ? As I said, such comment like that doesn’t show really good knowledge about how this works

2. As I said，to be able to generate the code, you need a generator which developed either by some experienced hacker, that need work out the algorithm of how code is generated based on the vcrn and vin or leaked from manufacture. However both way need to obtain private key and that is the key of this solution, which is almost impossible to get, but somehow some “special” people get their hand on it.

3. based on your comment, I guess you don’t really know what is vcrn code and how this code is generated. The vcrn is based on the individual key on the each module. On Pcm4, it s stored in eeprom encrypted area and will be decrypted by using unique key stored v850 chip on RCC board. I can calculate any vcrn on pcm4 unit as I knew how it works. You really need to know what you actually talking about when making comment relates to it

4. auto coding will change the adaption on the unit which will wipe out the coding and adaption based on the option code. Yes if the adoption is enabled manually, it will be wiped out. However, you didn’t mention what if you do the factory online auto coding, because if you do that, it will wipe out the adaption and coding you put in for activating CarPlay and android auto as well, because the code you put in to activate it has not registered on sever, and sever know nothing about it, and will wipe it out anyway, then you need to do the same, to recode the unit for CarPlay or android auto.

4. the software hack is on application level as I mentioned many times, if you understand what does that mean, if you don’t, you should read some more articles about this. There are many way to enable features without relying on coding and adaption, so auto coding won’t do anything to it, which means that way CarPlay and android auto will work even without and coding abs adaption.and activation does not require and obd tool to prove that.

5. If you understand more about what is application layer, then you will understand why I said the activation will be invisible to any CAN based diagnostic tool. Therefore will be nothing about warranty issue, because no one will ever know unless you specifically disclose this to dealer. But by injecting none genuine code, it will be detected by online diagnostic process and it will be trouble for warranty if (only if) they found out this is done by using that fake code. Don’t get me wrong, i said clearly (only if) they find out. This means the risk is very high because it can be detected at dealer side very easily by using piwis online

All comment I made is based on the fact of how these works with in depth knowledge of this system. I don’t want to mislead any owner, so the when any owner read the comment they will know which one is more logical

 

1. I don't need a code generator developed by hackers))) I perfectly understand how getting a key for carplay or android auto works. I can just get it, and it will always be the same for vcrn and vin car, and after changing the configuration and coding of the car, entering the code takes 1 second (copy - paste)

2. all the rest of the work on hacking pcm is of little interest to me, the reason is simple - your option, a one-time hacking, after which the owner has a lot of problems, one of which is the problem with subsequent maintenance, coding and programming of the car.

3. online to enter the code, it is required that this code is active in the vehicle configuration on the Porsche server, then it will be automatically entered when updating the pcm, but no one prevents you from entering it offline, just like in previous pcm (for example 3.0 3.1)

4. I understand perfectly well that you are not using obd. because you are connecting to a PCM via lan. (bthe process is no more complicated than with pcm 4)

why reinvent the wheel ? if you can just enter the code and activate the option ? I understand why you choose your option, getting the code is a big problem for you, but making PCM for yourself, even with the loss of warranty, is a free option

but why offer a person this for money, realizing that after each pcm update at the dealer, or after encoding the ecu of his car, he will have to pay money to you again for the same job? in my memory, there were cases when the great masters (as they called themselves) remotely killed the pcm when updating the firmware and then stupidly disconnected Team Viewer, and the owner of the car bought a new one at his own expense, followed by a trip and installation to the dealer

I understand that you can talk for a long time about how wonderful your PCM hacking is. but when a problem appears, and it will definitely appear, you will definitely not pay the losses. That's the whole point.

 

1. Clearly you didn’t understand my comment about wiping the coding and adoption by auto coding!

as I mentioned, this is done on application layer (if you know what is that mean), i suggest you may need to learn more about it. And by doing this you don’t need any coding and adaption change and therefore don’t really need to worry about auto coding, so why you keep talking about the reactivation after auto coding by dealer ? You really need read my comment more and try to understand it. I can make it to work without changing any coding and adaption then why am I afraid it will be wiped out by dealer ? Your logic is wrong.

2. The code you got not, when you say you just get it that means someone generated for you based on the vcrn and vin you provided to them, but it doesn’t change the fact that is not genuine code and it will be store any record on sever and your coding and adaption will be wiped out when doing any auto coding online by dealer and potential risk to avoid warranty if they found out about it.


3. The software hack you are talking about is on many forum which all relates to pcm4 time which is very old solution and obsolete. The new way to do better and invisible to dealer is the new way of doing things in PCM5 . I know a lot of people still doing the similar way of patching pcm5 but at least I am not using that way .



in summery, no matter how you get the code does not change the fact of that code is not genuine code Freon factory and has high risk of avoiding warranty if dealer detected (very easy to find out ) , also the coding and adaption WILL be wiped out if dealer do online coding.

For software solution, I DO NOT need to change coding and adoption, as it can be done by force to enable without checking car’s coding value. Therefore, no need to worry about lose anything in future at all.

 

these are fairy tales for the poor, your applied creativity is nothing but remote root access with subsequent modification of the content
there is no "fake activation code", it is one, and any code is generated at the factory by vcrn and vin. even after replacing the pcm with another one, the code will work for this car, just like any other activation code

I'm wondering if I upgrade the firmware to a newer one, what will happen? if I need to encode active lane keeping. with automatic encoding according to the factory complementation ? or , for example , if the next firmware update from the card , the PCM simply completes the update with an error and does not turn on anymore ? will you pay the cost of the new pcm remotely ? I'm sure not.

all activation in porsche and VAG is gone through activation code, while the chance of breaking the PCM or losing the warranty on it is zero. But you need to find potential victims, so you argue that the activation code (the only correct solution) this is bad, but hacking someone else's pcm without subsequent responsibility is great, good luck, you can continue to spoil someone else's property

 

1. the fact is that code is not issued by manufacturer and won’t stored in server, and Porsche sever won’t know anything about it.

2. therefore it will be gone after head unit replacement, of course you need Odis-e to re inject in after the replacement unit component protection is removed.

3. You are right the firmware Update will effect the software patch. However it can be easily patched again by using online tool only takes 5mins to re activate, so why need to charge for it again? beside that firmware update on head unit is very rare, I don’t see any car ever had that by Porsche( don’t got me wrong I know some are receiving that service but very rear)

4. The more often can occurred is online coding because each service will have standard procedure to do online compare. Guess what happens after that ?
You need to do coding again with odis or piwis. And more importantly as I said it will be the risk to avoid warranty. Became online comparison will tell dealer your car has something not suppose to have.

5. If you understand that what is application layer you will not speak like that, to make a big deal about gain access to head unit, it is just like log into a computer. What is is difference? Unless you don’t know what is root access means. You may need to learn more about computers OS relates paper so you have better logical comments than now.

6. don’t really need to prove something which is logical and common sense for any people with software background. Even sone car owners don’t have that knowledge they can do simple research by using all my comments here and this won’t change any fact.


7. You just need to admit that code you are selling is none genuine code. And it will be offline only and need to be re-injected by Odis or piwis after component protection removal process. Also if, only if( but very likely) dealer find it out that FsC is not suppose to be there when they do online comparison, it will avoids warranty for sure this is the fact, we can’t change that.

8. for me I do admit a lot points you have mentioned such as gain root access and firmware update..etc because those are the fact no one can change it, however you need to face the fact for the issue around the code you are selling as well, you can’t change the fact of those drawbacks of injecting those none genuine code into PCM

 

there are no inauthentic codes ! the activation code is one, its own for each car, it is generated at the factory by vin and vcrn, in no other way, it is entered online only when buying this option in Porsche, in all other cases it is successfully used offline, as well as activation codes sport chrono, navi and everything else in earlier models.
just don't lie
I perfectly understand what root access is, and how to get it, and that access to pcm is not much different from access to someone else's computer. but the responsibility for the breakdown is 0, it's not up to you to decide how and how often the owner of the car will continue to update the systems of his car, and life is such that today you are available and tomorrow you are no longer, this is reality, so your 5 minutes for each of your customers may not comeno need to try to seem smarter than others


there is no point in further polemics with you, good luck

as one grandmother used to say: "Внучек, я давно выкакала то, что вы сейчас кушаете...",
please excuse my English, it's an untranslatable pun

 

1. Yes I have already mentioned the difference between genuine code and none genuine code. The biggest thing is that genuine code will store on server.

2. The fact is that offline code does need special tool like Odis with 5054 or piwis with Porches diagnostic head to re enter if the component protection process takes place.

3. the other fact is that offline code has the higher risk can be detected by some dealer easily and will potentially create drama when it comes to warranty.

4. You may didn’t consider that reactivation by using software solution needs remote party to log in to do the job. However you probably don’t know all these can be done by owner themselves with activation server in place. Owner just need to have a dlink network card, and connect to computer to do self install so there is no issue for re activation even the firmware is updated.

5. in contrast, if offline code need to be re entered, owner need to have Odis or piwis with either diagnosis head in place for just doing that. I guess the question is which way is easier for owner ? Get all diagnosis tool set up or just prepare a network card? I think everyone will have answer very easily

6. more than that for software you can enable better hd 1920x720 resolution on CarPlay and android auto which swap code can’t do

 

Hi @FerdinandAG . I just got a new Porsche with PCM 5.0. Where do I buy and Android Auto code and how do I install it?

I'm a complete novice so step-by-step instructions are appreciated. Thanks.

 

@Darkpower So what is your recommended method for adding Android auto for PCM 5.0? The easier the better for me.

 

As I mentioned, the easiest and safest way is is using that software solution, all done on application level and does not require any special diagnostic tool and purely invisible to dealer