Motortrend 2019 Cayenne First Drive
03-03-2019, 01:33 PM
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Motortrend 2019 Cayenne First Drive
Just read it. A few interesting quotes:
1) Porsche claims that the third-gen Cayenne should weigh 4,377 pounds. We weighed one and it clocked in at 4,676, just about 300 lbs more than Porsche claims.
2) Standard steel springs and dampers had a sweeter ride, even liked the handling better over the damp, twisting, climbing, plunging, and redwood-lined roads of Napa, Sonoma...
3) Found the air suspension to be a bit vague in Comfort and a bit artificial feeling in aggressive modes
4) Compared to the standard brakes, the PSCBs feel three times as effective
5) Porsche may have just nailed its target audience by building a nice-looking, comfy-riding, practical, spacious SUV with a seriously desirable badge
Given the larger size of the PSCBs, they for sure added to the overall weight increase but not 300 lbs worth. The air suspension may have added some weight as well.
1) Porsche claims that the third-gen Cayenne should weigh 4,377 pounds. We weighed one and it clocked in at 4,676, just about 300 lbs more than Porsche claims.
2) Standard steel springs and dampers had a sweeter ride, even liked the handling better over the damp, twisting, climbing, plunging, and redwood-lined roads of Napa, Sonoma...
3) Found the air suspension to be a bit vague in Comfort and a bit artificial feeling in aggressive modes
4) Compared to the standard brakes, the PSCBs feel three times as effective
5) Porsche may have just nailed its target audience by building a nice-looking, comfy-riding, practical, spacious SUV with a seriously desirable badge
Given the larger size of the PSCBs, they for sure added to the overall weight increase but not 300 lbs worth. The air suspension may have added some weight as well.
03-03-2019, 01:52 PM
#2
Porsche claimed weight is without options, Pano roof alone is +160lbs
I guess Porsche made a huge mistake configuring AS as standard in the alpha dog Turbo model 😏
I guess Porsche made a huge mistake configuring AS as standard in the alpha dog Turbo model 😏
Last edited by Galion; 03-03-2019 at 02:12 PM.
03-03-2019, 05:27 PM
#3
Just read it. A few interesting quotes:
1) Porsche claims that the third-gen Cayenne should weigh 4,377 pounds. We weighed one and it clocked in at 4,676, just about 300 lbs more than Porsche claims.
2) Standard steel springs and dampers had a sweeter ride, even liked the handling better over the damp, twisting, climbing, plunging, and redwood-lined roads of Napa, Sonoma...
3) Found the air suspension to be a bit vague in Comfort and a bit artificial feeling in aggressive modes
4) Compared to the standard brakes, the PSCBs feel three times as effective
5) Porsche may have just nailed its target audience by building a nice-looking, comfy-riding, practical, spacious SUV with a seriously desirable badge
Given the larger size of the PSCBs, they for sure added to the overall weight increase but not 300 lbs worth. The air suspension may have added some weight as well.
1) Porsche claims that the third-gen Cayenne should weigh 4,377 pounds. We weighed one and it clocked in at 4,676, just about 300 lbs more than Porsche claims.
2) Standard steel springs and dampers had a sweeter ride, even liked the handling better over the damp, twisting, climbing, plunging, and redwood-lined roads of Napa, Sonoma...
3) Found the air suspension to be a bit vague in Comfort and a bit artificial feeling in aggressive modes
4) Compared to the standard brakes, the PSCBs feel three times as effective
5) Porsche may have just nailed its target audience by building a nice-looking, comfy-riding, practical, spacious SUV with a seriously desirable badge
Given the larger size of the PSCBs, they for sure added to the overall weight increase but not 300 lbs worth. The air suspension may have added some weight as well.
"Porsche states that it decided to go with a "real" automatic because it's better for towing. I'll call BS on that; the new Cayenne uses the eight-speed auto because all the other SUVs built on MLB Evo use the ZF eight-speed. In other words, there's no dual-clutch transmission that would fit. Case closed. A "hang-on transfer case" shuttles power to the front axle, but don't let that nomenclature lead you to expect low-range gearing."
03-03-2019, 07:24 PM
#4
also from same article :
"Porsche states that it decided to go with a "real" automatic because it's better for towing. I'll call BS on that; the new Cayenne uses the eight-speed auto because all the other SUVs built on MLB Evo use the ZF eight-speed. In other words, there's no dual-clutch transmission that would fit. Case closed. A "hang-on transfer case" shuttles power to the front axle, but don't let that nomenclature lead you to expect low-range gearing."
"Porsche states that it decided to go with a "real" automatic because it's better for towing. I'll call BS on that; the new Cayenne uses the eight-speed auto because all the other SUVs built on MLB Evo use the ZF eight-speed. In other words, there's no dual-clutch transmission that would fit. Case closed. A "hang-on transfer case" shuttles power to the front axle, but don't let that nomenclature lead you to expect low-range gearing."
03-03-2019, 10:05 PM
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I am not exactly folllowing you. The old and new Panamera has had the same engines with awd and pdk. I dont think the PDK can keep up with the towing weights. Macans have the PDK and tow from about 4000-5000 lbs. Not really enough for Cayennes. The clutches in a PDK are no match for a true torque converter.
03-03-2019, 11:40 PM
#6
Porsche also lists the weight as dry. So you need to also add all the fluid weight. Full gas tank would add 142lbs.
03-05-2019, 02:56 PM
#7
Just being picky, but my understanding is that the suspension system has been changed to aluminum. So comment #2 "steel springs" isn't really accurate. The reviewer sees a slight redesign, but from what I understand 19 is almost a completely new vehicle
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03-05-2019, 03:35 PM
#8
Springs are made of steel. The other parts of the suspension are aluminum.
